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During the Cold War, socialism was spreading everywhere, including the Middle East. However, the US wanted to exploit the fact that socialism - on the surface - is an “atheistic” ideology. They tried pushing this aspect onto Muslim communities, making it seem like socialism is inherently incompatible with their beliefs, unlike capitalism which doesn’t care about what you believe. This meant the USSR was the biggest enemy because it was the largest socialist nation that was seeking to expand its influence

It was not just about ideology. The Middle East also produces a ton of oil which meant that if the USSR had influence there, they would control the flow of oil thus have a major advantage in war and production. The US spoke to the monarchs and secured a deal: constant oil and globally sold in USD in exchange for American military presence and weapons sales to stop socialism and SA becomes a regional power.

Various ME countries also disliked socialism and would help the US. But SA had the money and local influence to direct covert operations, and now they have every ounce of assistance available with the US.

Basically, the US helps the monarchs stay in control by keeping them happy to side with the US. Their shift towards China and the yuan is interesting. It’s opportunistic and I suspect they’ll go back to the US once they get pressured enough to satisfy SA’s demands. But right now both countries are trying to please the monarch so they continue to be propped up. They’re not phased by China’s hammer and sickle because they know China doesn’t care about regime change in the modern day. They just want the goods. However, the US wants to go scorched earth on anyone who doesn’t agree with them, and SA is wary of that as seen with its refusal to sanction Russia and getting sanctions themselves (thus going to China).

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The USSR was pretty in-your-face about its atheism.

The US bribed middle eastern nations or straight up threatened them with invasion, like Jimmy Carter did in his famous speech announcing the Carter Doctrine.

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True but not all middle eastern socialists felt like atheism was necessary for their society to transition.

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I swear one day I’ll try to form the slightest understanding of what Ba’athism is

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They have a very cushy welfare state for Saudi nationals and a vast underclass of impoverished and effectively enslaved workers who are from other countries and have no local resources. If their workers get uppity they can be shipped home, beaten in to compliance, or just starved. If the Saudi nationals get uppity the royals can cut them off from that sweet, sweet oil money. And if you’re cut off you’re fucked because there’s nothing else to do in Saudi.

Think Immortan Joe in Mad Max - they control the water/oil/money

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Look at how they consolidated power over the arabian peninsula in the first place (hint: it’s what the am stands for in Saudi Aramco) and then who remains the global hegemon from then to today.

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a hundred billion dollars of US surveillance and military tech.

they had pretty serious opposition when they started out but the Brits, French and Americans mostly killed their rivals & propped them up. the west has also killed pan-arabic socialist movements and such outside SA, leaving even more fucked right wingers or an as-yet nonrevolutionary migrant workforce to do the work :shrug-outta-hecks: shits grim

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well they did have to have some DGSE commandos recite the shahada before dislodging rebels from the Grand Mosque back in 1979

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