Christians could face one year prison sentence for encouraging conversion to their faith, according to a new controversial legislation being introduced in Israel. The legislation which is being proposed by ultra-Orthodox members of Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition would also proscribe Christians from engaging in religious discussion with Jews.
Titled Proposed Penal Law: Amendment – Prohibition of Solicitation for Religious Conversion – 2023, the legislation is introduced by United Torah Judaism’s Moshe Gafni and Yaakov Asher. The law would apply to anyone who would attempt to persuade someone to change their religious beliefs, however the legislation specifically mentions the Christian faith, saying that “recently, the attempts of missionary groups, mainly Christians, to solicit conversion of religion have increased.”
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1920’s-ish antisemetism goes something like “Jews have failed to integrate with every society they’ve been a part of, because they don’t have a homeland” and that sentiment morphed into both the nazis and Israel.
Obligatory hitler or herzl link
It’s not a predictable outcome because of the holocaust at all. People have done ethno states without a prior genocide plenty of times, it just made it easier. The idea of zionism predates ww2 and its support by Christian nations as a means of getting rid of their Jewish population is also older than ww2 and was Hitler’s pre extermination plan. Someone else can handle the specifics better than I can currently. My cat is demanding pets
The assumption of “genocide” against Jewish Israelis as the only result of granting Palestinians basic human rights and representation demonstrates a deeply pessimistic view and a lot of projection. Rather than frame it as “abolition of the State of Israel,” define the goal as self-determination for all inhabitants of Palestine.
We can’t predict the outcome 100%. There will probably be significant intra-Palestinian power struggles, but this happens with Israeli politics too.
It’s an ethnostate placed smack dab in a pre existing country, Palestine and has been progressively doing violent expansions into what is left of Palestine. That’s why it isn’t legitimate and shouldn’t exist. Their treatment of Palestine being abhorrent is tied into its very foundation. There couldn’t have been an Israel without annexing Palestine.
My mom was an evangelical and I got a good dose of religious trauma over it, so I get why people can feel very antagonistic toward Christianity, but this thread is going way too far.
One religious group oppressing another religious group isn’t good, you don’t have to hand it to them, and you shouldn’t have critical support for Israel’s newest “deliberately oppressing Palestinians” law.
One religious group oppressing another religious group isn’t good
I mean, I agree in theory. But also, this just feels like classic “Leopards Ate My Face!” tier shit. You’re talking about a group of wealthy expats who routinely travel to Israel in order to foist their religious beliefs on a public that has spent the last 2000 years very publicly rejecting the sales pitch. At the same time, this group is dogmatic in their support of Israeli religious convictions, purely on the theory that the new western colonial enclave will bring about The End Of The Fucking World.
And now they’re getting the tiniest taste of the shit that locals unaligned with the current fascist government have been eating for the last century, and we’re supposed to discover the problematic nature of religious oppression?
This is literally the “First they came for…” poem, except these people are at the bottom of the fucking list. If nobody is left to speak for the Evangelicals, its because they’re a bunch of callous fucks.
And now they’re getting the tiniest taste of the shit that locals unaligned with the current fascist government have been eating for the last century, and we’re supposed to discover the problematic nature of religious oppression?
This is literally the “First they came for…” poem, except these people are at the bottom of the fucking list. If nobody is left to speak for the Evangelicals, its because they’re a bunch of callous fucks.
Do you think Pat Robertson is going to be impacted by this law? It’s going to be used to target Palestinian Christians. It’s going to be the same locals unaligned with the current fascist government that get screwed.
Do you think Pat Robertson is going to be impacted by this law?
Yes, in so far as rounding up a bunch of clueless midwesterners and having them pay him top dollar to visit the Holy Land on The Elder Abuse Crusades will no longer be as viable a scam.
It’s going to be used to target Palestinian Christians.
Palestinian Christians have already been eating shit. This expands the scope to anyone the new far-right government doesn’t like, including everyone from Eastern Orthodox Slavic migrants to Palestinian-sympathetic Catholics to Americans the government finds annoying.
As I said yesterday
Right wing conspiracy theorists: unhinged antisemitic nonsense
Israel: “Write that down!”
It’s really unfortunate that the country cracking down on Christianity as it should be is doing it as an extra way to further their ongoing genocide.
In any other circumstance I would support laws cracking down on Christianity in general, and definitely anything that could be defined as missionary work. Christianity is a scourge that should be wiped from this planet, but not the way you mean and I’d rather you not associate with me
