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Most people are not sitting around all day thinking about how the world is doomed and how all kids alive today are going to die miserable deaths. Like, the vast majority of people.

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:yea:

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yeah, people who have the luxury of family planning and actually making a choice are (hopefully) considering the kind of life they can provide for their child but like the rest of western society i’m sure that doesn’t include thinking climate change very much or very often

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I don’t usually say this, but

These people need to touch grass

Like have someone physically drag them outside and push them down in a nice park

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you just got fiscal’d… or maybe not?

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This child will make a fine soldier in my army. You may take two big sips of potable water.

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Yo for real the anti natalist are insane.

All you guys are not going to die from climate change. You are gonna die from the eco fascist movement that arises in 30 years from the children being born by the fucking right wing freaks popping them out right now.

Have a kid, raise a communist, and fight a revolution with them.

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I’d like for you to think about this post a little more, specifically thinking about what “raise a communist” means in the imperial core where you might not even be able to afford a house and then compare that to the past era where socialist schools run by, like, the German SPD existed.

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If people can post “don’t have kids, it’s evil” I can post “raise a communist”

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wasn’t Mayo Pete’s dad a Gramsci scholar or something?

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that’s an argument against having kids, right?

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My great grandparents were raised in a hovel and as kids rarely had enough to eat. They raised communists

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It’s a fair question, tbh. The real answer ime is that most people don’t really think about the future as a coping mechanism.

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The real answer is that there’s a biological drive in many people to procreate and much of human psychology, like all other procreating animals, is geared towards this. It’s like asking “Why have sex when STDs exist?”, completely absurd, people do it because they want to. Heck, I’m really hoping someday can find a way for trans women to be pregnant and give birth because I’d like to have a kid but just can’t stand the idea of doing it the male way.

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there’s biological drives for a lot of things but we can occasionally control ourselves.

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ok but should we I have biological drives to drink when I’m thirsty and have no duty not to follow them. I don’t accept that having kids is wrong because the anti-natalist argument heavily relies on the idea that suffering is real and matters but pleasure isn’t and doesn’t which is just ridiculous

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There will eventually be an external womb and uterus, so that women can finally be liberated from the unpaid labor of carrying children. Not to mention the dire threats to their health that come from not just one, but multiple childbirths.

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