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if a liberal speaks to you the proper response is to call them a nerd and then leave

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40 points

Hah nerd!

:farquaad-point:

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33 points

Gottem

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Strong agree. Throwing other leftist groups under the bus in front of libs and chuds is real “I’m not Chinese, I’m from Hong Kong” while being hate crimed energy.

The only leftist group I will explicitly distance myself with are terminally online “Anarchists”, and many anarchists I know irl say the same thing.

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Lol good point. I’ve been fortunate enough to never have met a real unironic Pol Pot supporter so I’ve never really thought about them.

As for Nazbols, at the risk of “no true scotsman” I don’t consider them leftists. Much in the same way that if I smear a layer of shit in a ham sandwich, most people cease to see it as a ham sandwich and see it as a shit sandwich. Nazbols themselves are the only people trying to make the “ham and shit sandwich” a thing.

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No risk at all. They are not leftists. They are nazis trying to find the correct way to coopt the left.

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fortunate enough to never have met a real unironic Pol Pot supporter

Noam Chomsky.

https://www.mekong.net/cambodia/chomsky.htm

“Future victims of imperial savagery will not thank us for assisting in the campaign to restore the public to apathy and conformism so that the subjugation of the weak can continue without annoying domestic impediments.”

Or were the Khmer really “victims” at all? Chomsky and Herman advance a number of arguments that imply that they weren’t. “…how can it be that that a population so oppressed by a handful of fanatics does not rise up and overthrow them?”(69) It is not unlikely, in Chomsky and Herman’s view, that “the regime has a modicum of support among the peasants.”(70)

Chomsky and Herman attempt to downplay the significance of child labor by claiming that “vocational training” for twelve-year-old children is “not generally regarded as an atrocity in a poor peasant society.”(90) The argument is a waste of ink. No amount of scholarly doublespeak can conceal the fact that child slavery is not “vocational training.”

Malcolm Caldwell, a British academic, was even more enthusiastic about the Khmer Rouge. He travelled to Cambodia to meet the objects of his admiration and was promptly and mysteriously murdered by them, joining up to three million other victims.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/jan/10/malcolm-caldwell-pol-pot-murder

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26 points

i don’t think this take is very hot, and if it is, im putting it in the refrigerator

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There are factions whose beliefs and goals are fundamentally incompatible with any hope for a decent future, but I think it’s important to avoid getting caught in the respectability trap, where you only ever defend the “image” of communism against idiotic accusations and never put forth any good reasons why an uninformed person would want to engage with your worldview.

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“I’m not Chinese, I’m from Hong Kong” while being hate crimed.

Dear lord I encounter this specific phenomenon in real life fairly often and it makes me inwardly insane because I just have to smile and nod and try not to take too long on my next 象棋 move. But inside my brain I’m screaming at myself too much and I blunder away a cannon.

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You should just say Chinese chess, nobody can read those funny scribbles.

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Last week that would have been okay, but international chess is also Chinese chess now because Ding Liren. Maybe “elephant chess” should be the new word for it.

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I find that “tell that to Vincent Chin” is a good response.

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I’m not like those other communists.

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I’m not like those other communists. I have a 12’ vertical leap and razor sharp claws.

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While the conclusion to leftist unity is valid, I am once again pointing out that the “Dictatorship of the Proletariat” does not mean we have what liberals think of as an “Authoritarian Dictatorship” where a new Stalin just gets to do whatever he wants, unchecked. The difference between an anarchist and a communist is not any difference in a desire for a classless, oppressionless society, but whether we can immediately get rid of the state after overthrowing the capitalist regime, or if we still need to maintain some state-forms as we gradually transition away from the remnants and societal ills of capitalism and class society to get a stateless, classless society.

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