“Let me be clear – any attempts to spread the oppression and poverty that Socialism always brings will be rebuffed by the people of Florida,” he added. “Travelers should be aware that attempts to spread Socialism in north Florida will fail and be met with laughter and mockery.”
"However, in much of Central and South Florida, the situation is far more dangerous for Socialists, as they may encounter people from Cuba, Venezuela, and other parts of Central and South America and the Caribbean who have direct knowledge of, and experience with, the horrors of Socialism.
America is a shithole lol the only reason it hasn’t been declared a human rights crisis by the rest of the world yet is because of its military, its exportation of media propaganda and its history as the worlds greatest superpower. It’s a crumbling wreck.
A lot of people are going to be angry about this, but not me. I’m just smiling quietly. This is yet another step along the long road to balkanization and an eventual second civil war. Murka’s doing down, folks. It’ll be a while, though. Another 20 years or so of this and it will be ready to break.
Wait for the tat to this tit, where California or New York issues a declaration that nazis are not welcome and will be met with open hostility and violence. Then that orange on a Florida license plate will be toxic and result in the drivers being pulled out and beaten up…and then a tit for that tat, and so on and so forth. This has happened before in many other countries and the script is being followed correctly.
Yeah, 20 years is an honest estimate. Can’t see the States coming down anytime in the next 3 years but its encouraging how little i can predict. Compare that to 3 years ago - it felt like nothing would happen for at least a decade. Now there’s a massive “cultural discomfort” in almost every capitalist social stratum, unionization and openly deranged righties are driving scores of people to the Left, and the idea of America functioning as one state is only getting harder to square w/ reality. No matter what we go through, and i’ll avoid guessing, the idea of the United States enduring another half-century is genuinely absurd
There’s a lot of ruin in a country. It can burn for a long time before the load-bearing members start cracking. Venezuela took 15 years for the wheels to fall off. America is orders of magnitude larger and stronger. But we’re going a lot faster than they ever did.
California or New York issues a declaration that nazis are not welcome
can’t see this happening because they are run by liberals. they will instead try to “engage them in civil debate”
I could see the declaration part because it’s borderline meaningless and unenforceable—the liberal’s favorite kind of “action.” But not the “drivers being pulled out and beaten up” part, unless it’s the reverse scenario where drivers from CA and NY being dragged out of their cars and beaten by these freaks in places like Florida or Texas.
These states are Nazis? Big if true, literally
What kind of thinking is this?
Liberals are baby nazis and liberals ar ein thr cali and ny government, therefore they are nazis
"However, in much of Central and South Florida, the situation is far more dangerous for Socialists, as they may encounter people from Cuba, Venezuela, and other parts of Central and South America and the Caribbean who have direct knowledge of, and experience with, the horrors of Socialism.
Just tack up a “here there be gusanos” sign somewhere on southbound I-95
At this point, are there ANY decent humans left in that place? Also, given the hatred that right wingers have for any type of immigrant, how many people from those countries can there really be in florida?
Edit: I’ve read through the replies to this and now I feel like an ass. I probably should’ve given it more thought before posting it, or maybe not have posted it at all. Sorry.
Jeff Vandermeer, sci-fi novelist, demsoc shitposter, and self-appointed guardian of indigenous flora and fauna of the greater Tallahassee area?
Although I could easily see him sending his family to safety while he stays behind to keep the birdfeeders filled. He lives in a rural compound surrounded by trailcams; I’ll bet he secretly owns lots of guns.
Yeah. Millions of them. They’re poor and have been systematically excluded from political and economic power. There are 21 million people in Florida. About 11 million of them voted, and 48% of those who voted voted for Biden. The Fascists have control over the instruments of government, but that hold is not necessarily represented in the population. This stupid fucking “Democracy” means that with a little voter suppression they can have “legitimate” power without having any kind of real majority. Most of the fascist states are like that - Fairly narrow majorities among the voting population, and who knows what the non-voting population thinks. But for the most part they’re all poor and systematically shut out from power. They’re disorganized, they’re demoralized, they’re working two or three jobs to maybe make rent.
Maybe it’ll be like one of those situations where one party makes a wild statement and then the exact opposite thing happens?
:frothingfash: ‘Socialism isn’t allowed here!’
:based-department: <socialist come out of the woodwork>
i left over 15 years ago. left everybody i knew behind and started all over. admittedly, it is hard to move for poor people with dependents. i understand and empathize. but they should also accept, it’s never going to get easier either. there are absolutely people with the means to move who aren’t moving. they want to, but they aren’t materially impacted yet, so it’s just a thought experiment. i know people in this category and they are fools. remember, florida is not chicago or new york or other states in the deep south. it’s not a place to fight over. it WILL be devastated by climate change. it is a sandbar with some vegetation on it that has only been above sea level for the blink of an eye. it’s already malarial. west nile. zika. dengue. those are only going to get worse. the infrastructure is already under strain from hurricanes/flooding. there is nothing to fight over except the capacity to retreat with your allies and create pathways for others to evacuate now.
the people with the means to move are assuming there’s going to be some kind of final moment where it becomes obvious and unavoidable that each day going by is an increasingly loaded dice roll for their personal safety and freedom of movement. right now there are no checkpoints on the roads out of florida. these people aren’t imagining there ever will be. there are no militias sweeping through rural communities, stopping and checking cars for “criminals” or whatever term they’ll use. these people aren’t imagining there ever will be. there is a pipeline funneling people into the carceral system and for every person in it, there are loved ones who feel compelled to stay nearby. all it takes is someone you love getting swept into that system, and now you’re probably not gonna leave either.
all of this makes one wonder, if the people with the means to leave are going to eventually get out… who exactly are they selling their property to? will anyone be buying it? will the state, at the behest of the housing market, put a freeze (or slow roll) on people quick selling to prop up the housing market once federal flood insurance stops underwriting coastal developments? what financial institutions will be offering traditional financing for a 30 year loan on a home in florida during an unending state of emergency?
when it comes “when should i leave florida”, the advice is the same as “when should i plant an oak tree?”
the answer is “20 years ago”. and if you didn’t, then start today. mass evacuation and displacement is not something you want to wait for everybody else on. quite the opposite. if you can get yourself established elsewhere, you can help others move. a place to sleep, or even just park in front of. a secure place to leave their stuff and take a shower while they figure out their next steps.
as i said before: it is not going to get easier.
ok didnt want to go there anyways.
