If you go to lemmy.ml it’s just a bunch of fucking redditors with their dogshit memes and like three lemme users. It’s sad. I strongly encourage users of this site who are so inclined to take a break from infighting to bully neoliberals over there.
it’s just a bunch of fucking redditors with their dogshit memes and like three lemme users. It’s sad.
Thats just this place too
Am I the only one who’s been on this website since day one who has no idea what the fuck “federation” with lemmy actually means, lol?
Imagine all the instances are countries and instances that federate are like how travel between EU countries works without special passport stuff. Borders are open between those instances. And if an instance de-federates/blocks from others it’s like how Britain left the EU and lost all the perks and now they can’t easily travel back and forth.
So let’s says you make a lemmy.ml account. Any instance that federated with them you can go to using your same account.
Lemmy is a federated service. That means that there are many Lemmy servers and they can all share their content with each other. If you post something on lemmy.ml, all the servers federated to it will be able to see and interact with that post using their account even though it’s not on the same server.
And what is supposed to be the benefit of that exactly? If I wanna go onto another site I’ll just go there lol.
The benefit is you can have a usable social media site without the centralized control of a reddit or a twitter. the content and users are distributed across many independently run servers. The idea is to have lemmy as a whole, no matter what specific instance you’re on, act like one big site like reddit (or even bigger since it can also talk to mastodon), but still enable smaller communities to thrive within that, and make it more democratic because your specific instance can just defederate other instances that refuse to moderate hate speech or whatever.
It’s like email, now your account will be
It helps decentralise the web in an actual way (and not the technobro “everyone should be beholden to a few huge companies but it’s okay because they use blockchain”). It works kinda like your phone plan, you can call anyone with a phone number even if you have a contract with AT&T and the person you want to call has a contract with Verizon. If it didn’t work like that, you would need a different contract with every provider to call your contacts.
Federation works on open protocols, which means you can also talk to Mastodon profiles directly from your Lemmy account.
Federation is when the UX is super inconsistent and 90% of the content goes missing after a month, because everybody spins up their own Lemmy or Mastodon instance for personal use and gets bored of maintaining it after a month
You know how you can text your friends a cool link and be like, “check this shit out”? Lemmy has a protocol for different websites to do that with each other automatically. Instead of a person-to-person communication, the communication becomes server-to-server. And what that looks like in effects is that you and I could be having this conversation from separate websites in the future; websites with different focuses or countries or rules. The governance can get complicated, as can the specifics of the protocols used, but the basic effect is that people from different websites can talk to each other, and the websites don’t even have to match. One could be Mastodon (Fediverse Twitter), one could be Peertube (Fediverse YouTube), and one could be Lemmy (Fediverse Reddit). But a peertube video would show up on Lemmy as a post and commenting on it on the Lemmy site would also create a video comment on the Peertube site.
It’s not much different and you get adjusted to the change very quickly. Although I don’t use federation much on Lemmygrad anymore, we’re active enough at this point that I don’t need to look at lemmy.ml to find content.
When you see something federated (from another website that reached yours), there’s usually a mention in the username that says where that person came from, so you know where you are at all times.
It’s like how you can send an email to anyone, even though your email address is registered at @gmail.com, and their email is is at @microsoft.com. So you can log into a different Lemmy instance/website, with your account details from hexbear, provided both websites agree to it/federate with each other.
This is the simplest way I can explain it.
Critical support for the hexbear lemmy fork that meant we couldn’t federate yet
I think something else worth mentioning is that Lemmy instances never really built a unique culture, or personality. Hexbear definitely has some, probably partly as a result of growing out of Chapo, but I can’t think of one noteworthy Lemmy meme.
Do you count culture only in memes? Lemmy.ml is the hub for FOSS and privacy enthusiasts, it doesn’t go much beyond that (that I know of) because their user base shifts depending on migrations from Reddit. Lemmygrad has a culture as a welcoming ML community where people are always up to explain and we’re very patient. We also have several inside jokes.
All the other instances are too new or inactive to have developed anything yet
Lemmygrad has a culture as a welcoming ML community here people are always up to explain and we’re very patient.
I don’t know if I’d go that far. This post got some mocking replies at the bottom (like “F*ck Off you Lib”) and the OP got a ban for “liberal” according to the modlog. That’s something I’d expect here, not there. They were so unwelcome they made a clone community for leftistinfighting over on lemmy.ml
Do you count culture only in memes?
In hindsight ProleWiki counts so I retract the statement that there is no culture, but I still think there isn’t much. Maybe I just haven’t heard the inside jokes.
its not the hub but it I guess it’s a hub. but links to articles does not a culture make. Lemmygrad similar to here has a culture developed I would argue mostly on their subreddits before the ban, but it certainly maintains it
memes are more of an indicator species than a prerequisite though
I just see a huge chance to reopen the lib-to-leftist pipeline, except this time, communists control the website :xicko:
Someone on here a few weeks back talked about the origins of the mod “tankie takeover” on Reddit leftist subs, and how there was an organized attempt to push the sub in a more politically radical/less liberal direction, then shunning or banning dissenters, and educating/forging the remaining posters. Perhaps that is what Lemmy is about to experience.
I think there are only two impacts on us that would happen.
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More visibility = more new users = some will be lib. So mods will have a bigger workload for a while.
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We will only federate with a few other instances and what that would usually mean is their users can comment on our posts. e.g. lemmygrad users. They can already do this, of course, by just making an account here. It would just be easier to do and easier to discover this website, meaning even more of 1, essentially.
I suspect this may be a part of the rational to not just turn all the libs away on lemmy.ml (or maybe I’m just too hopeful). Gain an audience, then teach them they’re wrong.
Relevant (even if at tad libby): https://ncase.me/crowds/
