Dessalines: :bugs-no:

I’m sure his ideas have advantages and the lemmy devs can be frustrating to work with but he literally showed up yesterday spamming the matrix chat and now this

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I have no interest in writing Go.

okay then fuck off!!! thanks for playin dipshut!

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Yeah I’m getting annoyed at all the people posting all their great ideas/suggestions to Lemmy and getting up in Dessalines/nutomic’s replies about them.

Like yeah, it’s two guys busting ass and trying to keep shit afloat. They’ve had like half these suggestions in the backlog for a couple years. Contributions fucking welcome, and if you want to contribute ideas/suggestions do it in the GitHub instead of expecting them to read everyone’s posts.

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Love the “you have to either admit I’m right or acknowledge that you’re stupid” approach this nerd has to conflict

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seems to be slowly coming around in the more recent posts

dessalines again being a good living example of :sankara-shining: we must never stop explaining

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Typical good intentioned contributed couldn’t handle that there were also good reasons for not accepting their contributions.

Fast CI is good. Locally runnable CI is basically a necessity if you want keep your CI well maintained. Lemmy’s CI sounds like an absolute nightmare to change. If you can’t run it locally then you have to commit and push your changes and keep refreshing a website to see if it works. If this takes +40min then you literally can’t hack on it for any extended period of time unless you have deep brain understanding of the CI system which basically no one does.

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Yeah. The thing was he asked about doing this in the matrix before he put the PR together and was essentially given an unequivocal “no” at that time as well

I don’t think the CI is 100% necessary for local development and I think you can run woodpecker locally if you wanted, but yeah the runtimes are dog slow and there’s lots of room for improvement, this guy is just being a jerk about it

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Local CI only for CI development. You keep your CI simple and use docker and some sort of build scripts like gnu make to do local development.

Never heard of woodpecker though. New thing to read up on.

Edit from woodpecker docs:

Plugins are Docker images with your script as an entrypoint

NOW THIS IS PODRACING

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You can build lemmy just fine locally. I think maybe it just doesn’t run the test suite unless you use the CI? So I guess the real question is do you need the test suite in the loop for every build. I can see where it’d be nice but I’m barely even a dev so idk

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Sounds like he’s just salty he did work and they won’t use it. Could have been solved by simply asking before if they’d be open to changing their CI. At the end of the day the Lemmy devs going to be the ones using and most likely maintaining it so what they’re comfortable using is what goes.

Companies do similar shit all the time where they develop something for their specific use case and then fight tooth and nail to upstream it so they don’t have to be the ones maintaining it.

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Yeah the funny thing is he asked in the matrix chat about GitHub actions and was specifically told “no we don’t wanna use Microsoft” before going and putting that PR together, so he doesn’t even get that excuse, such as it is

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Ah nevermind. Just another programmer with a god complex I guess. Many such cases

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If he had better communication skills and made any attempt to tailor his PR to the project’s wishes not his own preferred tools it could’ve been fine and maybe even been used. He’s right about much of what he said but he is being inflexible and a dick about the specifics.

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Could have been solved by simply asking before

True but I can definitely relate to the hyper focus on building something on a whim and then hope it’s useful later approach. Trick is to post the code like it’s a pack of crisps “oh does anyone want this? I’m not gonna eat it”

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