Not to defend Elon, but how many is that really? Cars are ridiculously unsafe and kill thousands of people every year, 736 crashes since 2019 is nothing.
Just wanted to add to the discussion: Tesla’s definition of a “crash” is different from what everybody else uses. Tesla counts all incidents where an airbag deployed as a crash, most other agencies count any incident where a police report or insurance claim was made as a crash. This article talks about all of the problems with Tesla’s self-reported safety data - those numbers are absolutely cherry picked to paint the rosiest picture possible.
It’s not really the frequency (even though it’s not really a tiny number by any means) but it often fucks up in situations where an average sober driver wouldn’t fuck up in a million years, like straight up running into the backs of trucks. It’s not like it only fucks up in weird corner cases that happen once in a million, it fucks up in really obvious situations.
The number of such crashes has surged over the past four years, the data shows, reflecting the hazards associated with increasingly widespread use of Tesla’s futuristic driver-assistance technology as well as the growing presence of the cars on the nation’s roadways.
The number of deaths and serious injuries associated with Autopilot also has grown significantly, the data shows. When authorities first released a partial accounting of accidents involving Autopilot in June 2022, they counted only three deaths definitively linked to the technology. The most recent data includes at least 17 fatal incidents, 11 of them since last May, and five serious injuries.
Well yeah, if the technology becomes more widespread, there will be more crashes. I don’t see how this indicates that Tesla autopilot specifically is more dangerous than the average 5 tons of steel piloted by drunk drivers texting at 80 miles per hour.
After the engineer leaked footage of Tesla outside the core training region there were plenty of problems. The rate of accidents and dangerous situations outside that core training region were quite high. This includes pretty much every city center on Earth, public transportation, greenery near roads, bikes, kids, and places of road work, as well as different kind of bollards in use around the world.
for a single car brand that only rich people can afford, that has waiting lists to be able to even buy one?
if it was like ford, fiat, or renault then yeah, that would be low, but tesla?
There were 43000 deaths caused by car accidents in the US in 2021 alone. 17 fatalities since 2019 is nothing.
if you only sell a thousand cars per year, that’s a ridiculous failure rate
edit: huh, they sold a lot more cars in the last few years than i thought, disregard
Yeah, that’s the thing, I don’t have the data either and neither does this article. Elon and Tesla can both get thrown into the blackest pits for all I care, but this headline is acting like I should be shocked at these numbers while giving 0 context for us to figure out what they mean.
Is this really because of the Tesla autopilot, or is it just another day of the car industry demanding its regularly scheduled human sacrifices? What is actually the problem here? I don’t wanna blindly get mad at the wrong thing just because I don’t like the guy behind it.
A live beta test that actually takes lives! Big tech in action baybee!
Tesla’s 17 fatal crashes reveal distinct patterns, The Post found: Four involved a motorcycle. Another involved an emergency vehicle.
They don’t elaborate on these “patterns” at all after this. J o u r n a l i s m
If only :my-hero: was liable for and convicted for all this shit. :sicko-wistful:
From what i understand they went and made the self driving part with as close to “AI” as they could. Where there are simple solutions with redundant off the shelf kinda sensors that would have worked way better
