Post the links in the comments so folks can explore them and give their own input!

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Lemmy.blahaj.zone has a lot of posts with a similar vibe but have struggle sessions about tankies. I think they could benefit from seeing our left unity culture, but we’d have to have janitors rigorously cleaning their shit before it hits our end. If we could moderate out the sectarian posts I think it would be a great addition.

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From what I’ve seen, they ban people for being ”tankies”, so I don’t know about similar vibes.

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28 points

this seems like a terrible fucking idea. it has 196 on it, which is known for its hyperfetishization of trans people. the fact that a trans space allowed them on is a serious mistake and it makes hexbear far more accepting to trans people as a result.

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I think it is important to emphasize the word mistake here. The people running !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone are anticommunist shitlibs of the highest order, but the operators of the instance itself seem a lot more reserved. I have seen pushback against the red scare shit in some other threads there when the subject of blocking lemmygrad (which they haven’t done) comes up.

I think these 196 dweebs just ran up in there, declared it their new home, and now they’re stuck with them unless the admins decide to piss a lot of people off. I could be wrong, but this is the vibe I’m getting.

Anyway, I’m only being a pedantic nerd about this because it is very easy to get the moderation actions of the admins and mods of specific communities mixed up. Ultimately the admins deserve blame for leaving these people in power, but the landscape has changed drastically over the past week and I’m willing to keep my judgement a little bit lenient in the short term.

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Isn’t 196 full of ites? I know I don’t have to subscribe but it seems like our users would a) bully them until we get defederated, damaging our reputation more than if we hadn’t federated with them, and b) complain about them incessantly on here, and also complain about there being too many complaint posts and also complain about there being too many complaint posts about complaint posts.

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Ah but you are forgetting the parody posts about the complaint posts

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If their mod team was burning alive, I would not even piss on them. We need to try other instances first because BZ has cool people but also extremely dedicated anticommunists, some of whom are mods.

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29 points

Lemmygrad.ml is a good one too but again a case of moderators having to clean out the sectarianism

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I would say no, because I personally don’t like lemmygrad.ml.

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25 points

If you’re federated with an instance you don’t have to subscribe to their stuff, it just gives the option and makes them appear if you sort by all

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12 points

Yeah, but I’d also prefer if they couldn’t see or interact with whatever I post

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Lemmygrad is the only decent one, and the lowest amount of work for our moderation team. Everyone else will be screaming about tankies until they turn blue in the face.

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Apparently we can federate with Mastadon too and I’d be curious to see how toots.matapacos.dog would show up in a reddit style UI. Not necessarily realistic but worth the experiment imo

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And the meta thing is another curveball around mastadon

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I think it puts the burden more on the Mastodon users to figure out than us.

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15 points

We can, I’ve had Mastodon replies on lemmy.ml, and it seem reply parenting just doesn’t work well. Mastodon just kind of has one long thread, not replies to each reply, so Lemmy can’t assume which comment a reply is too and just puts it at the top-most level and gives you the @ping. Usable, but not ideal.

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7 points

Wait, but wouldn’t it work to make reply tweets show up as comment replies?

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At the moment, it is not possible to subscribe to user accounts on Lemmy, only communities. This means it is basically not possible monitor anything taking place on Mastodon from Lemmy because communities don’t exist on Mastodon. Mastodon users are able to follow Lemmy users (though not communities), and can reply to posts / comments they make. These replies are visible on Lemmy. From the Mastodon user’s perspective, there is no difference between a Lemmy post or a comment though. This may change as things develop.

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16 points

lemmy.world because that’s where I mainly am

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we would be inundated with libs and it would stop feeling cozy imo

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I really really don’t think it’ll be inundated. Some will come in and get educated, some dunked, and some banned, depending on what they are up to. If it actually ends up being too much, it’s not difficult to reverse the decision.

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20 points

I like this kind of radical thinking, open the floodgates, close them as needed.

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maybe, but the site almost imploded when that vegan subreddit lifeboated here. it might not be a great comparison but i still think trouble like that is plausible.

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Also some of our more popular posts get enough votes that I think they’d show up on All in other lemmys.

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Pretty sure that’s going to happen no matter what

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27 points

I wish we had more anarchists.

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Hey, what’s up, it’s me your local anarchist

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Me, I used to call myself an anarchist but then I realized I couldn’t explain it well enough to justify anything about it. I guess I’m just a socialist.

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Like, couldn’t explain the concept well enough or couldn’t explain what sets us apart from other socialists?

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31 points

why is it so hard to find anarchists who don’t hate Tankies and Tankies who don’t hate anarchists. Why can’t we all just get along and overthrow capitalism.

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Decades of infighting. The soviet union would fund communist groups but not anarchist, which was a point of resentment. Later, when the soviet union asked for communist parties to engage in bad policy like the United Front in Spain or the no-strike policy in the US, it built resentment with the independent left.

Later, the 4th international built wedges between themselves and “Stalinists.”

Later the CIA posed as anarchists to drive wedges between anarchists and communists.

We’re used to sectarianism and we’re a little traumatized by it and is it any surprise we’re all a little weary of each other?

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The hexbear magic.

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Ideally we could disabuse places like blahaj zone of their anti-tankie hysteria and then you’d have a nice spot to hang out

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