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Political compass in general seems simultaneously reductionist and not nuanced enough at the same time. If we were going to simplify the current world, I think it’d be more accurate to simply say there is the western empire and its exploitation (and those allied with it) and then there is anybody who opposes that. Within that, you can start getting into nuance like “do they just preach vague stuff about anti-war but cling to the white supremacy dynamic developed over hundreds of years” (e.g. US patsoc, if I’m not mistaken). But even then, if we’re understanding imperialism in the right definition, it’s like, ok, is somebody opposing imperialism or just opposing, vaguely speaking, some of the international decisions that the US makes. Are they siding with decolonization processes and mindset behind them or are they just wanting to call it quits on the looting and pillaging for now and sit on their hoard.

I have some concern that overthinking the distinctions just empowers a divide and conquer strategy. That it has its place when we are talking about combined theory and practice in an organized manner making sure your developing movement is not being derailed or taken over by opportunists. But if we’re talking about personality test style aesthetics, it only waters things down and draws confusing lines.

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4 points

Is this schizophrenia?

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13 points

The original was perfect, why did they have to ruin it

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Why can’t people so close to being right just get the memo?! Why is there always a last handful of reactionary brainworms??!!

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which brainworms, like it’s a bit reductive in my oppinion but it’s alright

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Personally I look at this compass and my own thoughts are- it’s almost 100% brain worms lol… Though at least I suppose it seems they probably support Palestine, and aren’t homophobic. Which is basically just meeting the criteria of “not a blatant genocidaire/bigot”- until you realize they’re probably in support of the Banderites, NATO, and ETIP (and thus effectively a genocide-supporting, warmongering bigot) and support (or lump in the ““libertarian left”” anyways) other abhorrent institutions like the EU, rogue Taipei, and the Nordic regimes.

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? This is generic “maga communism” the idea of the US is good, but every US enemy is good especially for being socially regressive.

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Aside from politcal compasses themselves being intrinsically stupid, especially when you transparently make your favorite section the ‘correct’ one (even though ‘authoritarian leftist’ is in general the closest to being the correct one in real life) - they’ve included the LGBT flag in the liberal but NOT the communist section, while they’ve included patsocs and national chauvinists amongst actual anti-imperialists.

It basically spells out a specific set of brainworms, the ‘social conservative’ who believes all LGBT rights are bourgeoise inventions rather than being crucial to the struggle of the working class, and who also buys in to the idea of ‘redeeming the USA’ by just turning it communist instead of needing to tear the whole thing down and build new structures in its ashes.

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That’s fair but as far as liberal nonsense this compass is very surprisingly not absolute crap it has relevant and sometimes even correct takes I for one am impressed, but yeah throwing lgbt rights on the liberal side is just sad indeed

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12 points

What’s that above the infrared logo?

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Taliban flag. Also note its not internationalist, but in favor of “large civilizational states,” ie ethno nationalism, classic fascism.

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Actually “civilizational states” is pretty much the exact opposite of ethno-nationalism or ethno-states. In the ideology of the people who use that term, a “civilizational state” is a state like Russia, China, India, Iran, etc. that is explicitly a multi-ethnic, possibly also multi-religious state that is based on some abstract shared “civilization”, whatever that means (i find the concept vague and ill-defined but that’s another matter, i’m just explaining what they mean when they use this term). It’s the opposite of the nation state concept pushed by the West where they seek to balkanize states like Russia and China along ethnic, linguistic and religious lines. According to this view, the West are actually the fascists as they’re ones pushing for ethno-states.

So for me it’s not fascism, certainly not in the classical sense, but it’s also not Marxism or any kind of a coherent materialist world view.

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Marxism is internationalist but supports the self determination of every nation. These people probably just believe in assimilationism.

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9 points

Taliban flag

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9 points

Why?

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A reasonable person would say beating the US and reducing poppy production makes them cool. These guys probably think of them like they think of the DPRK: le based authoritarian socially reactionary ethnostate opposed to the “””globalists””” (funny thing is they aren’t even allied with anti-imperialist countries much).

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