So do people just not understand that temperature tolerance is a limited thing based on your climate and any deviations can feel significant?
No, they do not, and most of them aren’t willing to understand, either.
People, or at least NT people, with higher temperature tolerance are almost always assholes about it - I have weird heat sensitivity, I suspect on account of my Autism, and I only stopped getting constant shit for it once I basically entirely stopped talking to NTs.
The people in this thread are just seizing on an excuse to shit on people they perceive as weaker, or an excuse to shit on the English as if they are actually inherently evil just by existing. Or both.
It’s an byproduct of this site’s podcast fandom origin. Some people don’t understand that Chapo’s “bullying is cool” bit is comedic irony aimed at wealthy journalists and politicians on twitter who never actually experience bullying and just have no context for seeing negative feedback to their broadly unpopular opinions.
It’s also just common regional chauvinism. The same people here who say stuff like “just open a window dipshit, it’s worse where I live and I think it’s comfortable!” will go on to lament the seriousness of climate change elsewhere, then go right on to another post about low temperatures in winter and comment something like “just put on a sweater dipshit, it’s worse where I live and I think it’s comfortable!”
Yeah. The worst is how they always double down when confronted. It’s the same shit libs do when confronted on their bigotries.
Ableism is, unfortunately, extremely common on hexbear.
I think that the shitting on the British is just overcompensation for having been really into Doctor Who and Sherlock in their Tumblr phase. I’m Australian, so I do love to insult the British, but people just overdo it.
I’m Chinese living in Australia, so I have 2 reasons to insult the British.
If I ever get power I’m flooding the UK with opium.
It is interesting to see high heat and associated sweating as quite a powerful stimulus which often causes overstimulation particularly in people with neuro divergence. So sometimes it’s not even a heat tolerance problem but an overstimulation problem which NTs seem to have a hard time understanding.
Also like others have said, perception of temperature changed is largely dependent on where your current baseline is.
I have fibromyalgia and autism so it’s a combo for me. Heat makes pain worse, discomfort increases sensitivity, etc etc bad times.
Even just new meds can fuck with your ability to process heat. When I started prozac I would feel hot and get sweaty from basically any activity, which then meant I’d get cold, shiver, sweat more. NTs are fucking weird
In my case it almost feels like my body’s reaction to heat has a screwed-up sense of how hot things are. I can’t take hot showers, for example, which are objectively not dangerous, because they genuinely feel like they are going to burn me - normal-hot-shower temperature water feels like like a wet hot pan, it’s like my cap is just lower. Ambient heat in the air and light doesn’t do that in the same way, but it can make walls and stuff feel like that, naturally.
I hadn’t thought of it from the overstimulation angle before, though, but now that I think about it I think you’re right, that is at least part of why I hate ambient heat and particularly sweating. Thank you for that insight.
We used to be able to shit on the English, now we can’t because of woke ☹️
Yeah, the disabled deserve to suffer because they were born into a collapsed empire.
Not to mention that just from person to person within the same climate there are significant differences, probably genetic at their core. Two people can be sitting in the exact same spot and one will be burning up and the other freezing cold and neither of them are “wrong”
Tbf if thats higher than the infrastructure can support it will cause problems even if thats not that hot. Like they dont have AC anywhere. All the infrastructure is made to keep heat in because it was so cold
IIRC they’re also not built to keep the heat in because like 5000 people died due to cold weather in 2022/23. Seems like the UK has had the copper wire ripped out of the walls slightly faster than other imperialist countries.
The UK has the worst housing stock in western Europe. Homes are not only prohibitively expensive, they are also smaller, less energy efficient and in worse repair than in neighbouring countries.
you don’t need AC for 26C unless you’re a literal snowflake
Death to America
26C outdoors with no AC and poorly designed buildings with bad ventilation can easily mean 30C+ indoors
UK housing is dogshit, and isn’t largely designed in a way to get a good cross breeze and natural cooling
Even then, 26 C is not particulary hot. That’s a normal summer here in Germany, where we also barely have any AC.
Dress lightly, keep shades down and windows closed over the day and you have it cool inside. Most european buildings keep the heat out and the warmth in, depending on the time of the year. Because most of europe has continental climate, relatively hot summers and relatively cold winters.
That works great until you need to cook dinner, or use the computer, or any other appliance that produces a lot of heat…
It’s not unlivable, sure, but it makes it hard to be productive with anything. I had broken AC for a month in the US South once, wouldn’t wish it on anyone
That works great until you need to cook dinner
Yeah, first it’s frustratingly hot and afterwards you have to eat British food. It’s taking 2 consecutive L’s.
I had broken AC for a month in the US South once, wouldn’t wish it on anyone
I had a broken AC for 17 years in the US South. You adapt to it over time - I used to be extremely cold tolerant and prefer cold weather, like “go outside barefoot in shorts and a t-shirt with 3 feet of snow on the ground” tolerant, and now my extremities go numb if the temperature dips below 70 but I only hit the “this is getting too warm” point around 90 and it’s not too bad until it gets close to body temperature.
Yeah it’s not perfect. But its usually no problem below 30C.
As for productivity, oh yes that certainly is affected. Completely agree with the US south being unliveable without AC, the US has far more extreme climate than europe.
I saw this summer outfit video that this British YouTuber put together and it was wild - jackets, fatigue pants, boots, long sleeve rugby shirts. Just screaming at the screen “this is all autumn stuff what are you doing”
79 outside with no AC and badly designed buildings with no natural cooling can easily mean 90+ inside
It’s fine as long as all you need to do is sit outside in the shade, but if you have to do anything it becomes a problem
Dude where I grew up in a third world country it was hotter than this every single day of the year and everyone worked outside. Britoids get over your precious milky constitutions.
This thread is as pathetic as a bunch of white people complaining about how spicy kung pao chicken is
Like they dont have AC anywhere.
26C/79F is pleasantly cool weather. It’s 30C/86F and humid in the room I’m sitting in right now, probably warmer outside, and this is still pleasantly warm though starting to edge a bit close to the point where it becomes uncomfortably warm.
Like 26C/79F is “this is the result of the AC running until it’s starting to get chilly and gets turned off” temperature.
You eat toasted bread between two untoasted pieces of bread.
Sugar is too spicy.
You’ll literally die if you don’t get a “pint” in you daily.
Your red and look like a bulldog.
You are English.
no one actually eats that it’s just for sick people in the olden days or very poor people
I’ll defend the islanders and their weak constitutions.
At high enough humidity you can’t cool down from sweat, so a 88°F/31°C wetbulb temperature can be lethal. Add in sunlight, combining radiation with convection, which gives the extra 9°F/5°C needed to kill you. Humidity and direct sunlight can make 79° lethal, especially when combined with physical exertion.
It’s not just the gout and aristocratic inbreeding that’s killing them I swear!
The weirdly low dangerous wetbulb temperatures are actually arrived at with extremely low humidity and a very high dry bulb temperature. As long as the dry bulb temperature is below body temperature you can still passively cool especially with moving air, although obviously it gets much worse the closer both numbers get to body temperature. A dry bulb that’s 20 degrees below body temperature will always be cool regardless of how efficient sweating given the humidity.
I’m aware, but you’re ignoring solar gain. A dry bulb in shade will read differently than a dry bulb in direct Sun; sunlight can easily add enough heat to raise the dry bulb from 79°F to 88°F because you’re getting heat from radiation in addition to convection.
Then add in physical activity and poor air flow, add in people unprepared to dress appropriately and poor hot-climate infrastructure, it’s entirely possible for 79°F to become dangerous - especially to vulnerable populations.
“If you’re wearing a parka, and doing heavy exercise in the sun, and not drinking water, and also you have other health problems too, then this otherwise cool and pleasant temperature would become a problem” isn’t a very sound argument. Like yes, if you’re actively overheating yourself and also dehydrated and also overdressed and also you don’t do anything at all to mitigate these things you’re actively doing then you’re in for a bad time, but you can also mitigate this by not doing that, by drinking enough water, and by having an electric fan. You should never just passively have trouble with a temperature that’s 20 degrees below body temperature, that’s colder than an air conditioned space should be. Like here the temperature outside actually is 88F, it’s passively 85F inside, and after running the AC for a while I stopped it at 82F because it was getting chilly.
For those wondering why this is bad in the UK, it’s currently 3am and the humidity is 85%.
We have a very wet country. These temperatures are very difficult to cool down in with this kind of humidity.
Comrade, that amount of humidity is normal in many parts of the world.
The British have colonized parts of the world where people work in these conditions on the daily, but they didn’t take any knowledge of how to live and work comfortably in this kind of heat back home with them because the British solution was “make the locals do it”, hence the Schadenfreude.
