Something funny is going to happen.

In the NYT article (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/30/us/politics/biden-debate-anxious-democrats.html) they include this gem:

One of the strongest voices imploring Mr. Biden to resist pressure to drop out was his son Hunter Biden, whom the president has long leaned on for advice, said one of the people informed about the discussions, who, like others, spoke on condition of anonymity to share internal deliberations. Hunter Biden wants Americans to see the version of his father that he knows — scrappy and in command of the facts — rather than the stumbling, aging president Americans saw on Thursday night.

lmao this campaign is just handing ammo to republicans by invoking Hunter

Same energy as when people believe CIA claims, as if they’re being briefed rather than, you know, psyoped. You are not invited to the briefings

I mean it’s pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him. If he’s going to hang on until death claims him, then yeah he needs to purge some folks

which would be pretty funny, the last people in the administration with even a glancing familiarity with reality forced out so the lich king can cling to power with his bony fingers all the way to the gates of hell

I think this is probably true. It is a very common tactic in dysfunctional organizations (that I’ve even employed myself a few times). When someone is being incredibly obstinate and heading down a path you know leads to disaster, sometimes all you can do is switch to a cheerleader encouraging them to rush headlong off the nearest cliff. Then nobody can ignore the crash and there is the opportunity to build something better from the wreckage.

Nobody could have thought Biden would do well at 9 PM, agreeing to that time slot is prima facie evidence of sabotage

and for the record, since we’ve apparently got some semi-literates hanging around today, sabotaging Biden is probably the only cool/good thing the responsible staffers have ever done in their lives

The thing is debates are always at 9 eastern, because that’s 6 on the west coast, and allows people to get home and turn it on after work. You can’t do it any earlier unless it’s on a Saturday, and then in the fall you’re competing against college football

Edit: the move here is to do it on west coast time and do a weeklong tour of mountain states to try to get his sleep schedule shifted earlier

You know, like a toddler

I mean it’s pretty clear that at least some of his staff orchestrated this failure to create a window of opportunity to replace him.

I am very weary of giving credit to people who are consistently wrong about everything and always showing signs of incompetence.

It doesn’t have to be the result of a scheme, rather the simplest explanation is they really believed their own BS and those people standing up now are just opportunists that never liked Biden in the first place.

There is also maybe just the fact they’re just too embarrassed now, you can’t complain about all the silly Trump antics, covfefe or sex with porn actors and then having their own grandpa Joe almost shitting his pants on live TV.

Things like stutter or missing a step can be excused, but over 1h of live TV embarrassment?

His staff orchestrated this?

Yea okay wow, you are definitely blue maga

the last people in the administration with even a glancing familiarity with reality forced out so the lich king can cling to power with his bony fingers all the way to the gates of hell

Yea okay wow, you are definitely blue maga

yeah sounds like they’re really ride or die with Biden

lib read all the way to the end of the post challenge (impossible)

I think you’re being a little knee jerk here, reread the comment, supafuzz definitely isn’t a Biden supporter. You’re in a Hexbear comm, nobody here is pro Biden or pro Trump.

@midwest.social

Give it a few weeks, you’ll pick up on how everyone talks here.

I drive really slow in the super fast lane, I’m an a hole.

I don’t think they’re being pro-liberal; it comes across less as ‘Biden is fine’ and more ‘Democrats are trying to force out their terrible candidate without being overt about it’

lmao I think you just challenged supafuzz to a fight.

they’re saying a faction with the Ds wanted Biden out before the debate, there’s a power struggle between that faction and Biden’s, and that the faction that wanted him out has a better grip on reality. damning with faint praise isn’t endorsement.