Almost as funny as posting Elon and Ghislane
[not an argument, it’s a dunk]
You think you can defeat my argument with a pig shitting on its own balls? That’s a logical fallacy!
Damn Natalie you used to be coolish what the entire fuck happened?
Was she really? AFAIK almost all her content was focused on deconstructing bigotry and far right rhetoric, some light feminist criticism, that kind of thing. I’m grateful for her videos, though, I’d probably be a tradcath if it wasn’t for her. But it was never radical, or asserting any form of praxis.
She got popular initially through some high effort video essays on fascists and how to identify them. Over time her videos became more navel gazy and more personal, much more focused on herself. Lots of extravagant costumes and stuff.
Despite her earlier videos deconstructing fascism her diagnosis for the problem always centered around trying to appeal to ivy League educated rich white liberals
I’ve literally never seen any reference to contrapoints that wasn’t on here, calling out shit libbery
They cut a bunch of her stuff out of the doc, they just wanted to use her as a trans millennial face
It was always going to be like that, maybe she had some Westwing style dream where if she was just able to convince Hillary she would change who she’s been her entire life - or maybe contra was just excited that that meant she made it. Neither were true.
I am sure she said a lot of thoughtful stuff to Hillary that got cut out of the released version like Homer’s Poochie speech.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but who could have possibly predicted that?
And then naturally the move is to double down on a load of scratched lib shit and democrat punching left.
Personally, if I was fucked over by the machinery of a political party that I (somehow as a supposed leftist) didn’t see coming, that might inspire oppositon in me rather than establishment media oppurtunity.
I fully accept being seen as a dick: This was obvious and imagining she was being bamboozled is childish. Cutting together videos is her fucking career and we’re supposed to pretend that she’s so braindead that she thinks Hillary would give her a platform to say anything other than what Hillary finds acceptable? No, she wants the fucking clout and the money by being appealing to VoteBlues
True, but if only there was some way for her to realise that the Hollywood machinery of the Democratic party might use her… If only her naivety didn’t force her to embrace that oppurtunity to be an apologist for the worst of the status quo and box her into being a post-left grifter. If only…
I wouldn’t call her post left, she is still miles better than Red Scare or Amy Terese and still making content that gets libs to think a little more leftward
Perhaps it’s sematics, but I don’t think she was ever really on the left (even in the US-centric online space) and she’s spent the last couple of years entwined with the Democrats and punching left agains even mild US-soc dems. Even within an American politics online person capacity I’d argue she’s already in her post-left pivot and will only go further.
“Red Scare or Amy Terese” should not be the benchmark.
and still making content that gets libs to think a little more leftward
Did you not see her Vote Blue video? She spits on the left and advocating for liberal cognitive dissonance does not actually help people become communists. That’s just some combination of tailism and cope.
She’s always been a lib. She just gets a lot of hate because most leftists only support trans people because they think we’re politically reliable
they do? good Lord lmfao.
so everyone needs to know there are entire classes of trans folk who:
-simp the military -are liberal or even conservative -very much just want to disappear into a passing gender role of choice and integrate into society completely so they can go back to being thoughtlessly bourgeoise.
it is, as always, a race and class thing. I’m a working class trans femme and i live and breathe communism, but the idea that we’re any more politically reliable than any other group is surely shorn of ignorance. There are large contingents of middle class, middle aged, white transfemmes who look at you funny and disinvite you to their functions if you talk about redistributing wealth or abolishing the police
You can tell who values you in all of your trans-self by their reaction to conservative trans people.
If they say “chickens voting for KFC” or anything similar, then they never valued trans people beyond what they could gain from them politically.
No sane human responds that way to someone who is under serious threat. It’s just mocking that individual and the hurdles/threats they face everyday.
I feel like our identity both enables us and obliges us to be more thoughtful than the average person, but I only agree with you to the extent that, there are plenty of “allies” who will revoke the identity of our siblings for wrongthink - this is flatly unacceptable. But trans folk aren’t beyond reproach, and as a matter of internal policing, I’m pretty down with criticizing my brothers, sisters, siblings in gender-queerness for being overly self serving or disengaged politically.
with that said, this isn’t anything i would trust or feel good empowering cis allies, politically aligned or not, to do. Not their business.
But the liberals and conservatives in our cohort need their Come To Ishtar moment, and facilitating that is good.
idk she had a lot more radical pretenses before, though it’s partly also a Destiny thing where you can attract leftists by focusing on having cogent criticisms of rightwingers and hiding that you yourself are just a different flavor of neoliberal ghoul. Even government-funded PhiTube gives stronger endorsements of radical politics, which is part of why she plainly does not get the same hate even though she’s also a trans “breadtube” lady.
I think the main thing though, and the name was always a giveaway, is that “breadtube” was a fucking mistake and anyone able to build a platform on it would immediately become some self-absorbed new media labor aristocrat. Yes, that includes Shawn and Hbomb, but they are clever enough to avoid talking about who they support, unlike Contra.
