On lemmy.world I posted a comment on how liberals use ‘tankie’ as an invective to shut down dialogue and received tons of hateful replies. I tried to respond in a rational way to each. Someone’s said ‘get educated’ I responded ‘Im reading Norman Finkelstein’s I’ll burn that bridge when I get there’ and tried to keep it civil.

They deleted every comment I made and banned me. Proving my point, they just want to shut down dialogue. Freedom of speech doesn’t existing in those ‘totalitarian’ countries right? But in our ‘enlightened’ western countries we just delete you.

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By the way, it seems that moderators in 196 are deleting those comments from lemmygrad posters in a way that appear as visible while seen from lemmygrad while they appear as deleted by mods from any other instances (or so I suppose, I do not know very well how does Lemmy work). This is happening even if there is no breaking of rules in sight.

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it seems that moderators in 196 are deleting those comments from lemmygrad posters in a way that appear as visible while seen from lemmygrad while they appear as deleted by mods from any other instances

Whoa, that’s pretty 1984 Animal House of them

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Go ahead liberals. Call me a tankie. See if I give one ten thousandth of a fuck. Literally such a low-tier insult. “Uhh its like… uh…you support this large cool looking machine that stopped Color Revolutions and was responsible for Liberating the Eastern Front during World War II” “Yea, I do😐” “😨”

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Tankie means you approve when a communist state uses military/tanks against its own people… Not against a Nazi state. I would reconsider if you really want to wear that label with pride…

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Tankie just means “any communist I don’t like” at this point. Take your McCarthyism and complete ignorance about color revolutions elsewhere.

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Nice definition of tankie! Got that from wish?

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That’s correct, specifically a state that uses tanks against its people in revolt.

However, people on Reddit (and on Lemmy now) basically use it to refer to any leftist they have a disagreement with.

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Well saying tankies support using tanks against civilians gets you down voted on lemmygrad.

No tankies here though, all just libs propaganda

/kappa

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The nazis aren’t our people.

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And everyone who don’t likes Stalin is a Nazi

/kappa

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What is your opinion on the standing rock protests and the Kentucky state massacre

Also the 1956 Hungarian coup attempt that the epithet “tankies” comes from was literally full of nazis lmao

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Totally agree. Edgy Russian conquest apologists is far more apt. I hate the modern use of the term “tankie.” “Tankies” were at least communist. Had some ideas and principles. Neither Russia nor China has communist core economic systems.

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You used so many words to say that you do not have a clue regarding how the economic system in China functions.

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“So many words” I’m sorry my “micro blog” isn’t micro enough for you, message board warrior.

Not sure you understand what communism is. Nor how financial systems work. China is no more communist than North Korea is a republic.

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Mate you’re really making yourself look like a fool here I’d just quit while you’re ahead. Clear as day you haven’t a clue about geopolitics or economics. Must have missed the stop for reddit.

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I just don’t get why people are downvotin’ this comrade when they are clearly correct. According to the party doctrine on socialism with Chinese characteristics, China is not presently communist but is in the primary stage of socialism, aiming to develop towards full, egalitarian socialism and then on towards communism as the productive forces are modernized and the society develops further.

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It’s why it’s really funny that there’s a decent amount of libs trying to pretend that Lemmy (either .ml or as a whole) is this super “tankie” thing when they’re really the opposite

Like, if the rest of the Lemmy universe was “tankie” we wouldn’t need Lemmygrad in the first place

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It’s pretty funny that liberals see themselves as proponents of open debate and rational discourse, but in practice they start freaking out as soon as anybody challenges their dogmas.

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Real “my girlfriend goes to another school” situation, except the girlfriend is their respect for other people

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🤣

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omg i just had the misfortune of wandering into this thread, https://lemmygrad.ml/post/806853 i am so glad we have our own space where we can safely laugh at these fools. omg.

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That whole thread:

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“These gentlemen think that when they have changed the names of things they have changed the things themselves. This is how these profound thinkers mock at the whole world”

My favorite Engels tweet.

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hmm, I wonder who controls the socialist state

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Just because a state brands itself socialist doesn’t say anything about the level of democracy or workers’ control of it.

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It’s as much analysis as you can expect from the userbase of Tumblr lite.

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And I had the misfortune of not resisting to participate in it. Do not recommend.

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Thank you for your service comrade o9

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oh dear. I told myself i wouldn’t engage. (narrator: but he engaged). Just trying to gently nudge an anarchist towards materialist analysis, i’ll try resist getting sucked into any arguments for my own sake.

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Like moths flying into a bug zapper: we know it will hurt, but we just cannot help it.

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the brainworm infestation has proved devastating

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Holy shit what an insufferable group.

“Define Tankie”

Red fascist

Who defines a buzzword with a buzzword ffs.

Also! (Paraphrasing)

[…] people who justify genocides. […]

'scuze me what the fuck? Who here says genocides are cool and good actually? We are like the first fuckers to point them out and scream about them???

And even more!

Comrade Spood

Now that’s dose of Anarcho-Debilizm let me tell you. “Just press the communism button Xi and we’ll succeed no problem! They will just let us exist and everyone will love each other :3”

And it just still keeps going!

Educate yourself. / Please change and grow as a person. / Read a book.

Motherfuckers I read too much compared to your sorry asses.

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Educate yourself. / […] / Read a book.

Their education:

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I refuse to believe there’s actually 1.6gb of anarchist literature in existence that’s not supplemented with lots of random unpublished PDFs and saved blog posts that are rife with poor grammar and spelling errors.

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“I have” doesn’t mean “I’ve read”, what a pretentious dumbass.

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Yeah it was torture. I tried to keep it civil and lighthearted and actually engage but they are so programmed it’s almost knee jerk comment reaction at this point.

Also fun and great that so many Lemmy instances won’t federate material that threatens their worldview. I mean, I’m 100% anti Nazi anti fascist and anti authoritarian but what does that even matter right? How dare I say there might be a different way to view say Cuba China Vietnam or North Korea…

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