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He was communist, because he said so! So he must be one., that’s proof enough.

I have an idea, you all will love it. We will fool the liberals. We will build up a new party in the USA, in the imperial core! It will be a communist party, BUT we name it “Liberal Party Of America”. Since we name it liberal party, no one would ever suspect us. We can agitate and become a huge a party. At the point, when we are strong enough, we will change the name to “Tankie Yankee Party”.

Than its over. The bourgeoisie wouldn’t have enough time to prepare countermeasures. Even the CIA, FBI and NSA could have never known, what our true goals are, because the name said that it is a liberal party. It is such a genius move, the world will be shocked and the dicatorship of the proletariat will be established in the US. Other countries will follow (We should maybe establish the Liberal International in first place??) After that the entire proletariat will start clapping and sing the International. Checkmate capitalism, I am very smart ;)

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All AES countries are actually state capitalism except for Pol Pot and Hoxha :smuglord: :thermonuclear:

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No. As an expample look here, its called: People’s Republic of China not State Capitalistic Repulic of China. You see, I am very smart again.

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Ah, but an even smarter counterpint: Some of those People in China are Capitalists. Therefore it is capitalist.

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This is actually very similar to the actually serious take from JereSuomi: The DPRK is the only true AES and Pol Pot’s Cambodia was real socialism, unlike Le Duan’s revisionist Vietnam

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10 points

They seriously said that Pol Pot’s cambodia was real socialism? The DPRK thing was…interesting, but claiming that? No idea how they could possibly square that circle. Ultras are experts at that I guess though.

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but the Communist Party of China is not communist! they pick and choose when to look the other way.

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Magon did this in Mexico. He started the Mexican Liberal Party but was a Communist, or mostly anarchist anyway.

But wasn’t as successful as one would like.

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38 points

At least they recognize that communists are good at Matlab

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Genuinely though wtf was wrong with him. Like I know he was CIA backed but seriously wtf. I recently heard he genocided people who wear glasses and at this point I can’t even tell if it was a joke

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Who the fuck is claiming him

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me every time I encounter a zionist wearing glasses

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Anti-communists when a capitalist acts like a capitalist: “That’s just corruption, not real capitalism. And if it is capitalism, that’s just human nature, so we can’t do anything about it.”

Anti-communists when a “communist” or “socialist” doesn’t act like a communist: “Why aren’t communists personally taking credit for what this person/party did and using it as reason to be ashamed of communism as a whole and never want anything to do with it.”

Side note, IIRC Parenti talks about this in Blackshirts and Reds. Not about Pol Pot specifically, but about the phenomenon of fascists using similar rhetoric to communists to garner popular support. But notably, they did not support people materially with bottom up power the way the communists did/do; the opposite, in fact. So it matters a lot to look at the practice of what a “communist” group is doing, not just what they have as an ideological line.

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