"You know who doesn’t work? Billionaires! At least sick people have a reason to have taxes go to them, they need help, billionaires don’t.

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That I value people without empathy about as much as they value people without jobs.

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This is the other way. If they want to be cruel and reactionary for the sake of it- remind them that the same applies to them.

If they don’t even acknowledge that, they’re stuck in their ivory tower of douchebaggery

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They usually say that they have worked their whole lives and nobody has ever given them anything. Then they say that if they have never been given anything why do they have to give anything and that these people are just lazy

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Flip the argument. Extoll how socialism has near 100% employment and relatively no homelessness, even providing good jobs to the disabled. Wiki will fact check this as true, because it agrees, but says that’s bad

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There are a lot of groups of people who can’t take care of themselves: Children, the elderly, the sick or otherwise impaired, indigent, etc. We need to allocate some of the surplus product to take care of them (whether that’s called taxes or anything else). This is why even under socialism, there is still a surplus; workers (at least on an individual level) will not keep all the value they produce, because some of it needs to go to these groups (as well as a few other things).

Unfortunately under capitalism, that surplus is mostly not allocated to the groups above; most of it is going to a few wealthy parasites living in opulence, laughing at the poverty of the rest of us.

They’re falling prey to a common right-wing talking point: “Its not us who are the parasites, its actually poor people (or mothers or whatever group they want to demonize that given week). Please blame these other groups, its not us!”

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Taxes aren’t necessary in a socialist system. DPRK has no income tax. It would be the money that would have bought their boss his third lambo, that pays for keeping people off the streets instead.

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