I don’t like being referred to as a “person with autism”. I can’t just set it down, it’s not something I can remove. It is fundamental to the way I interact with the world, right down to how stim enters my brain. If my brain has types of inputs no allistic person can even approach, and methods of processing inherently different, it is an existence no allistic person can reach. There is no version of me that is not autistic.
A “cure” is the same as shooting me and replacing me with someone else.
The type of person I am is autistic. I am autistic.
I know it is a big trend in leftist spaces to use person first language, but in many situations that just sounds like eugenics to me. Personhood is not some distinct universal experience. There is no “ideal human mind” floating out there in the aether for them to recognize in me.
I get that person first language helps some people recognize that thoughts happen behind my eyes, but if the only way they can do that is by imagining I’m them, I don’t care.
I’m perfectly fine with “person with autism” and “autistic” but if you call me an “autist” I will punch you in the throat
Same. Applies to everything …religion, sex and gender, etc. I tend to think if you treat people with respect and apologise if you fuck up (And learn from the fuck up.), youll be fine. Of course there are people that wont allow you to move on, and thats up to them, you arent gonna get on with everyone.
I can’t directly relate. I strongly prefer ‘person with schizophrenia’ to ‘schizophrenic’ (or similar, worse terms). I feel that, first and foremost, I am a person, as are all people, neurodivergent or not.
But also, I support you in being referred to as you want. I don’t need to relate to your experience to just, refer to you as an autist (when I would need to refer to it at all), after you tell me you prefer that.
Yeah I really don’t agree with this thread and i don’t like the language discourse prescribing to others how I should be referred to. OP prefers “autist,” I prefer the exact opposite. I can’t relate to wanting my identity to be defined by autism rather than be referred to as a person who experiences it.
Can’t wait to be called an asshole in the future because i disagree with others telling me how to speak, especially in reference to something that affects me directly
I’ve heard repeatedly, from different autists, how they explained this to teachers for pschology, pedagogy etc. and the teachers listened, nodded along and then immediately went on to keep using person first language.
yeah I’ve had similar experiences as well, it has lead to me having little trust in teachers in general
It’s a general problem with academics and marginalized people, the academic world just moves slower than the communities they’re dealing with and they’re always lagging 10 years behind in their language and can’t spontaneously course-correct because direct input from the people they’re talking about counts less to them than what’s on the books. Really shows you the priorities.
Ask them if they’d call a black person a “person with blackness”
I have seen people in the comments on some platforms argue for that when I mention stuff like this, its a time
I think “black person” is more or less equivalent to “autistic person/person with autism”.
CW racist language
What OP is asking would be closer to calling someone “a black”, which sounds offensive for obvious reasons - it reduces personhood and emphasizes their difference, one that historically was used to discriminate
Only because in that case the word was used to persecute. Same how both “A latino(a)” and “a latino person” are fine, but “a hispanic” is really bad
specifically “a hispanic” is bad because it’s wrong linguistically? Was it used historically (or now) to be racist? I looked up historical use real quick and only found stuff about adding “Hispanic” as a choice in the 70s. What did i miss?
Only because “blackness” isn’t really a typical (or technically appropriate) word? I’ve heard “people with darker skin” or equivalent and it seems to have been fine, in appropriate contexts.
People with darker skin sounds weird as fuck and is kinda meaningless phrase
“Dark skinned people” is better
I am a person with autism the way I am a person with legs, they’re kind of an important part of me
