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CA is an op. Got banned for just saying celebrating the chapo ban was dumb.
Why does this feel like therapy lmao
I thought this sounded like when a parent scolds two siblings for fighting and forces them to make up lol
TFW we grow up watching our parents Marx and Kropotkin fight with each other and our lives interacting as siblings is defined by the trauma of witnessing all of it
Anarchist here - Tankies always seem to have a Lenin quote that absolutely slaps.
Lenin as the ultimate poster is an undeniable fact to all ideologues. Lmao even Jordan Peterson is obsessed with him and his style
One point I haven’t seen brought up: anarchists and tankies have the best critiques of each others’ ideas.
Think of all the bullshit attacks on socialist states that come from all parts of mainstream American politics. Anarchist critiques of socialist states are great because they address the problems inherent with states as hierarchical institutions without getting bogged down in anti-communist Cold War propaganda. They’re also more than willing to criticize private institutions, which is almost totally lacking in any other school of thought that is willing to be so critical of states as states (e.g., libertarianism). As for tankies, the best challenges to anarchist thought are (a) “what if some form of state is necessary to defend people against hostile capitalist states?” and (b) “how many of the problems with hierarchical state institutions can be solved if the state is controlled by workers and run for the benefit of workers?” It’s not dismissive of anarchism or purposefully ignorant of it (as many other attacks on anarchism are); it’s acknowledging and agreeing with much of what anarchists say but arguing that there might be practical limits on the ideas. Both groups are much more honest with each other than any other group is with them.
The “I’m a centrist; I think anarchists and MLs both have some good points” bit is a meme, but it’s unironically how I’d like to see government work. Where a state exists, it should be controlled by workers for the benefit of workers, and it should be regularly criticized on anarchist grounds so that it does not grow beyond what’s necessary.
anarchists and tankies have the best critiques of each others’ ideas
This is the true meaning of left unity. Not “agree to disagree” but work together to achieve the mutual goals we have (which is most of them at least for a long time) while holding each other accountable, and the breadth of perspective and experiences allows us all to grow stronger and sharpen our edge. Its not about proving one tendency right, or everyone agreeing all the time, but about forging strong solidarity amongst each other so that we can all become the best we can be for the sake of each other
it’s as if there’s some kind of take by Anarchists…lets call it a “thesis”. And then Tankies come out with some counterpoints, Let’s call it an “antithesis”. And then they merge these two through discussion and action into some kind of “Synthesis” that incorporates the best aspects of both.
There should be some kind of word for this process.
When I say that I want billionaires to not exist, I mostly meant that they will become not-billionaires instead of headless. The latter is reserved for any that just won’t give up despite themselves. They’re still people, people addicted to gaining money and power. It might be some lib shit, but think of Negan’s treatment in The Walking Dead (granted, I don’t know what happened in the last few seasons). We should work to make the conditions for such a thing to exist to not exist.
