I’m just wondering what their views are on other AES countries since they welcome private investment, except for DPRK of course

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In the UK at least, no.

The ones i’ve interacted with actually seem to focus on the most, to there own determent, on positive coverage of Cuba.

Like I agree, we should support cuba; but every demo you do should not be about Cuba, they will handout leaflets at these demos with anti-china lines in them about the ‘Imprealist Chinese’, its ridiculous.

I interviewd about joining one a while ago and they asked me to hand out pro-cuba leaflets that had anti-china messaging in it for some reason, in the poorest area of my city. I asked why not focus on stuff people actually know and care about there, like private property and shit.

They just blanked me and asked if id do it, never bothered to engage with them further other than to sometimes read there lit (transphobic, anti-AES for the most part)

Just liberals who covered themselves in a red flag honestly, its more productive for me to engage with renters and work unions in the UK at least.

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Yes and no. Their views on Cuba are contradictory and very individual based. It’s one thing that shows how different strains of “anti-revisionism” is nothing but subjective and silly idealist stuff

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Depends on the “anti-dengist”. I believe most “anti-dengists” (Maoists especially) denounce Cuba due to introducing private property, that or Castro never called his revolution “socialist” but rather “bourgeois democratic”, thus Castro cannot be a Marxist-Leninist. This is stupid. Not to mention that Maoists also tend to believe that Cuba is a sugar colony.

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Those same “Maoists” would have denounced Mao himself for the idea of New Democracy and the policies he adopted toward the national bourgeoisie. What all ultras have in common is that they refuse to take real material conditions into account, and this results in their inability to conceive of any sort of tactical flexibility as anything other than “betrayal”, a straying from the purity of the dogma. They live in a world where reality and the constraints it imposes are irrelevant and all that matters is having the perfect ideas; in short they are idealists.

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Not exactly the same, but the SWP are trots who for some reason love Cuba (but denounce all other AES and anti-imperialist struggles).

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BlackRedGuard and a bunch of other ultras consider cuba “soviet compradors” or a “soviet colony”. But ya I agree with everyone else, ultraleftists have no consistent policy when it comes to who they denounce, which is usually why they also denounce each other with 20+ page long incomprehensible maoist diatribes.

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