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Beeper breaks e2e. Only use it with caution

Edit: I don’t want to discredit beeper, it’s just what it is. As long as you know what you do, e.g. no nudes, everything is fine - it’s still matrix.

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Beeper bridges break E2EE. Encrypted Beeper <-> Matrix messages remain encrypted.

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The way they got iMessage to work is by hiring a Foss developer who did something pretty amazing:

They reverse engineered the iMessage protocol and emulated parts of macOS that are necessary when registering an iMessage account on a device!!

https://github.com/beeper/pypush

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Is Google’s RCS open? Last I heard, it was still limited to Google Messages, but it’s been a long time since I’ve paid attention.

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RCS has open spec, but implemanting it means dealing with phone networks and their policy. Also limiting operating systems like Android and iOS and a blocking factor.

No need to push it. Good old XMPP is better in every single way and exists since 1999. No tied to phone number, stable, proven, available on any device, with encrypted group calls and easy to host yourself.

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I would love to use this. My only concern with it is that it would be pretty much impossible to get people to use Signal if they see that you are already on iMessage or RCS, but this could be very useful for signing up with a VOIP number for work, because you probably are not gonna ask your boss to download and use Signal you are only going to ask your friends and family who have your real number instead of a VOIP number

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So can I use this to join my family’s group chat because they all have iphones and refuse to use anything but Imessage…

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