This is funny but it is a bit close to the sort of screenshots of contrasting tweets by Jewish people that /pol/ likes to post to try to paint them as undercover pretend-white-people trying to undermine society with liberal ideas. It’s probably fine unless we get in the habit of posting these. I don’t think Hexbear is ready for the “are Jews white” struggle session lmao
Most (European-descended) Jewish people are white IMO, it’s not exactly difficult to see it (both in regards to appearance, but moreso in regards to privilege).
It’s a contextual whiteness (an arbitrary construct) as always, but we may as well be arguing if Irish, Russians, or Italians are “white” at that point as well, or even if the white Latin Americans or Boers (who were also brutally abused by the British), etc. are “white.” Go back far enough, and you’ll find Ben Franklin going on about how even the Germans and Nordics are “tawny” and only the English and Saxons are white…
To argue further on it we’d need to define the limitations of what kind of whiteness we’re talking about IMO. “Phenotypical” whiteness (usually with an ethno-religious bent particularly to root out Muslims and indigenous culture) like what is predominantly, culturally ingrained across the settler-Anglosphere? “Whiteness” by political alignment and acceptment into the upper echelons of the imperialist in-group? (Even then that becomes messy as all hell, for instance we all know Klanmala, Barry, and Rishi aren’t white, even if Barry is half-white or half-European descent).
There won’t be any satisfying answers ultimately. But I don’t think anyone can look at Blinken, Yellen, Nuland, Netanyahu, or the many other prominent European-descended Jewish people in the framework of empire today and say that they are not white in the here-and-now; as white as imaginable. Not to say whiteness is associated with guilt- because if it were then as with the other definitions it becomes messy as all hell- but the whiteness, and adjacency or acceptance into it (into empire and the system of white supremacy, perhaps?) certainly is a thing today.
Probably the most satisfying/fitting thing IMO (other than the phenotypical definition, or geographic one) would be “adjacency to empire” but even that naturally falls apart real fast.
Yeah this meme is just changeling shit and would fit in unedited in an antisemitic venue.
I see this as more of a asablackman thing where on one comment you are poc and then pretend like that never happend.
Remember the “as a gay black man”? From that one Republican ghoul.
Eh there are a bunch of people who have “passing privilege” where they can be contextually white or nonwhite. One of my Iranian friends is like this for example. It has a lot of weird intersections like you can pass more if you’re conventionally good-looking. A lot of Jewish people occupy this space. Unless someone knows a lot of Jewish people or has weird racist phrenological interests a lot of Jewish people just look straightforwardly white.
That one’s pretty easy.
Zionists and those who uphold imperialist hegemony are white. But watch how quickly Jews who support Palestine are relegated back to untermensch status
Zionists and those who uphold imperialist hegemony are white.
This doesn’t hold up. There are compradors of all races aiding white supremacy and imperialism worldwide, but they don’t get white status. Jews aren’t different in this regard. Just because they’re Zionist scumbags doesn’t mean they’re immune to the actual antisemitism that permeates the empire.
Not all Jews whould be put in the same racial category there are some that whould considerd “Black” and there are others who whould be seen as white
I’m sure our comrade knows this, and I think its not really what theyre getting at
I agree with their point, though tbh the line about the struggle session feels pretty baity to me, tbh so does the tweet.
Either way I think race is pretty important to the tweeter. Im extremely pale and I dont go around getting into arguments about whether I am or not, how embarrassing.
Isnt this that racist columbia professor who kept trying to be a victim by going go Palestine protests?
http://web.archive.org/web/20200925163724/https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai
this is the only archive I could find pre oct2023, but it’s interesting he wasn’t including zionist in his twitter bio back in 2020
maybe not interesting, but something
“don’t call me white” starts playing
European descended Jews are some of the whitest people in the United States no cap.
They’re at the top of the US foreign policy chart
You can tell he’s white because he has the self importance to think him making a statement on Twitter means fucking anything or that anybody asked him.
