cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/45204357

Yesterday, I created my account on Lemmy.ml because I want to become mod on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml. And I posted this comic on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml It’s SDV game cutscene where Shane a NPC go watch Sports game with you kiss you accidentily but It was part of that event also player kiss Shane(NPC) back. Here’s video for more context. And someone claimed it have SA(Sexual Assualt) From Hexbear Ofcourse. So, I should delete it. I said it was a part of game cutscene. And If main player doesn’t love the Shane(NPC) then they don’t need to complete this event. And Just as a sarcasm I added Yeah we shoule delete this entire community because this game is Woke like Woke Detector Steam Group said. That user think I am some anti-woke dickhead something like that IDK. And tell me to Kill My Self. What I do now? I wanted on become mod on .ml because community was already well established. I message dessaline but I am sure he will not unbanned me. :(

Did I really did something wrong? I don’t know If I really did something wrong.

Link for that comic if embed doesn’t work.

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35 points

let’s watch an unreliable narrator get sympathy from a bunch of lowlifes primed to project their own axe to grind towards a community that excludes their toxic asses

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If you have information that contradicts OP’s narrative, by all means, share it. Otherwise you’re just trolling.

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  1. They posted a crosspost link on .ml to the stardew valley comm they created, contradicting their complaint about getting banned

  2. The mod log says they were banned for breaking the rule against bigotry

  3. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, you fucking moron, not the person casting doubt on it

Just on a personal note, you’re a fucking idiot for taking a story like this on face value when even in the OP’s text the actual reason for the ban isn’t touched on. It’s amazing how poor your critical thinking skills are.

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They posted a crosspost link on .ml to the stardew valley comm they created, contradicting their complaint about getting banned

There’s no contradiction between complaining about having one account banned and cross-posting with another.

So cut off the crap. You aren’t fooling anyone here.

The mod log says they were banned for breaking the rule against bigotry [rule 1]

And I’m calling bullshit on the stated reason why .ml banned OP. More on that later.

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, you fucking moron, not the person casting doubt on it

Epistemically speaking the burden of the proof falls on both, since you’re “conveniently” omitting that you didn’t just “cast doubt” towards OP’s claims - you also did your own claims there, by implying that the ban was to exclude [ipsis ungulis] “their toxic asses” from the community. (Whatever “toxic” means.)

On a moral level though? OP is defending themself. Have you ever heard about presumption of innocence?

In both cases, you still need to back up your claim. Now at least try to pretend to be a decent person, and do it, instead of running again with tail between legs.

Just on a personal note, you’re a fucking idiot for taking a story like this on face value when even in the OP’s text the actual reason for the ban isn’t touched on. It’s amazing how poor your critical thinking skills are.

My sides went into orbit. That’s specially hilarious coming from someone who shows blatant gullibleness towards the reasons stated in the .ml modlog.

But let’s roll with it. Contrariwise to your assumption = bullshit, I don’t trust OP’s narrative due to lack of critical thinking skills. I trust what OP is saying here because it’s extremely consistent with what I’ve personally observed as a former .ml user who used to mod two comms there:

The .ml admin team, as a team*, has the same reading skills of a potato, is often prone to witch hunting and assumptive behaviour (consistent with this case), and uses “rule 1” (bigotry) and “rule 2” (unwelcoming behaviour) as catch-all for “we want a bullshit reason to get rid of this poster”. And it never admits when it fucked up.

If you want evidences of that, just go dig on the defederation of ani.social, where the admin team distorted the concept of child sexual abuse material to [unnecessarily] justify it. Or I can come up with the modlog of one of the comms I used to moderate there. Your choice.

*I’d gladly give you names. But I don’t know if it’s allowed here.

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Bigotry? When? I didn’t say anything bad

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Here’s some context, in defence of the OP:

The game in question allows you to date and marry different characters, among them Shane (represented in the comic with the purple hair). In order to do so, once the character reaches an affection level of eight hearts towards you, you need to give them a bouquet, that clearly signals that the player’s avatar has romantic interest towards that person.

The comic represents Shane’s ten hearts event. As in: you can only reach that point if you already showed romantic interest towards Shane. And in the context, the kiss is not even sexual in nature, it’s just Shane excited with the game.

As in, there’s no fucking way to interpret this as sexual assault.

But of course. Slacktivists gonna witch hunt, right? They’re unable to understand context, but they’re still really eager to screech at you. And .ml moderation in special has a nasty tendency towards both slacktivism and witch hunting.

They also don’t seem to get sarcasm well.

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As in, there’s no fucking way to interpret this as sexual assault.

Well, having never played stardew valley, it’s actually hard for me to interpret the comic in any other way. I hope the encounter in stardew valley is different enough not to count as SA, but as it’s represented in the comic it certainly looks like SA.

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Well, without the proper context it’s hard to interpret things correctly, indeed. And yet it’s what we (people in general) should do, to avoid being unfair. Doubly so when we’re in a position to dictate what others should/shouldn’t share, like the admins of an instance are. [EDIT: it’s what we should do = interpret things correctly.]

I hope the encounter in stardew valley is different enough not to count as SA

If you’re in the mood, give this link a check. It’s the whole 3min scene, straight from the game. Just keep in mind that, as I mentioned before, the player avatar and Shane (purple hair guy) are already dating.

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11 points

This is SA and all my arguments are made in the original thread which OP conveniently never links: CW for SA and SA apology https://hexbear.net/post/3706906

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You are a treasure for the Fediverse to have. You allowed yourself to get triggered later on, but this comment right here is pure gold! 🪙

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11 points

Ye they just got upset over nothing and went straight to the ban hammer for no reason. Just stick with lemm.ee and let that community grow.

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Ml has become a sespool of bigots and propagandists like hexbear so you’re better off just leaving.

I was recently banned for calling someone who was calling for the death of all Americans an idiot.

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dude YOU’RE the idiot for taking an obvious shitpost by someone who is themselves likely american seriously. it’s called hyperbole for comedic effect.

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10 points

The deranged hexbears are literally saying its hotter than hell outside today, don’t those tankies know that’s not physically possible?

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i asked some ignorant hexbear how many people he thinks capitalism killed and he said “ten gorillion”. i googled it, turns out, gorillion isn’t a real number. i told him that and he showed me a photo of a pig who seems to have defecated on his own testicles. i asked what that had to do with me calling him out for being wrong and he just posted the photo again.

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I’m the idiot? Do you even know what you’re talking about? There was nothing comedic about it… Are you being comedic? You’re defending someone calling for the death of all Americans…

Also I was banned and my comments were deleted, was that for comedic effect? You couldn’t possibly be that dumb so you must be a chatbot running interference.

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Kill all americans and start with the troops

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I’ve added the link over at !de_ml@lemmy.blahaj.zone who have a list of alternative communities to ones hosted on ML.

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