Obviously lots of us have been concerned about this, but one thing I noticed recently are Ukrainians claiming the West is now supporting Russia, and if normal Ukrainians are saying this, then you just know the UkroNazis believe worse.

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I don’t recall a time where training and arming a radical group ever worked out fine for the status quo.

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worked well enough in the color revolutions?

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Absolutely, I think a bit part of the long term Ukraine strategy is funneling Ukrainian Nazis into US and EU to radicalize and train domestic fascists. They were even on the ground in Hong Kong doing training during the the protests there.

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They were even on the ground in Hong Kong doing training during the the protests there.

you’re telling me those “democracy” protestors were assisted by Western backed fascists?

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Literally no other way democracy can really take hold

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Yeah, I remember that article from years before the SMO about Ukraine being the international training ground for fascists. So, Azov doesn’t even need to leave Ukraine since they’ve been rebranded as brave freedom fighters like the Contras. They can stay in Lvov to protect in 2034 after Russia reaches the outskirts of Kiev and at the same time train NATO fascists, street fascists for europe and the anglosphere, and the CIA goons who will train other fascists in probably mostly latin america.

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Well, they’ve done it before, even as specifically in Ukraine - Operation Aerodynamic. More broadly for Europe - Operation Gladio.

The result? Business continues as usual. The truth is that the far right has basically never not been funded in Europe.

If there’s resistance, you get Years of Lead, ala Italy at the time of Gladio. If there’s no resistance, business continues to continue as usual.

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A real danger? no. A “danger” that can be taken advantage of to justify more weapons contracts, police & surveillance technology transfers, and maybe an intervention a couple decades from now in UA after some stuff explodes up and it’s pinned on Azov? If they can still conduct themselves that way, surely they will.

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Probably. I think it’s intentional too. There’s massive amounts of euros that want to exterminate Muslims, so leveraging Nazis in Ukraine is a first step in doing that.

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