Excited to find the western chauvinists in this community.
Edit: Wow apparently the only people on chapo dot chat are whitees unaffected by and benefiting from their imperialism confidently declaring how the perpetrators are to be treated.
Y’all have some nerve
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ITT If you shoot a black kid in the back in downtown Baltimore I want nothing to do with you. If you perfarate an entire back family in Mogadischu or Baghdad that’s ok, you did growth and spaces.
agreed. ACAB is also juvenile. cops have training, they know about guns, many of them just want stable pay and benefits
Communism is when you declare individual moral culpability for their role as cogs in an oppressive machine and the more you declare it the more communister it is. In fact, Marxism is 100% about the moral veracity of individual actions. That’s why Engels was an evil counterrevolutionary for continuing to manage a factory his father owned despite claiming to be a “”“Communist”“” and Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai were reactionaries since they are products of the exploitative Chinese landowning class.
Mao should have been completely fine with the peasants canceling him and calling him a vampiric leech for the value his family sucked out of the peasantry and his role in accepting comforts off the backs of the exploited masses. Joining the Communist revolutionaries doesn’t erase his previous sins. He should never have been allowed to lead, it should’ve been an illiterate landless peasant that had no idea what they were doing because then it would’ve been m o r a l l y p u r e
You dumb fuck. Can you read? Where is the talk of “counterrevolutionary” or “reactionaries”. Engels, Mao and Enlai wouldn’t fly into mad rage like you if someone insulted them for being landlords or capitalist. They’d probably join in.
Lol literally all of my comments have been sarcastic, why do you think I’m raging? I’m not a troop, never have been one and never will be one and I’ve even cucked troops on more than one occasion lol. I just think it’s funny as fuck that people on twitter dot com love stirring the pot and think making moral judgements is praxis.
Answer my question, what is the goal of a left wing movement in your mind?
Answer my question, what is the goal of a left wing movement in your mind?
I’m not taking the bait. If you have something to say say it.
man people ITT are projecting so much and responding to arguments that no one made. It’d be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.
So what exactly are you arguing then? This whole thread is just you responding to posts giving actual material reasons for accepting veterans in the movement, and you saying “lol you’re not even understanding what I said”
I don’t think anyone here thinks the US military or imperialism is good or making excuses. They’re saying veterans are a net benefit to the movement towards our goals. Is your argument that everyone should insult them? Is it that being able to insult them is more important than having them in the movement?
Is your argument that everyone should insult them?
The tweet says that western leftists’ opinions are irrelevant. The implication is that victims of the US military are the ones who can shit and insult them.
My argument is for troops to have the same standards applied to them as men who got #metoo’d. If you’re not ready to accept reformed #metoo’d men then you should do the same for troops. If you’re ready to accept them but with caveats then troops have to have caveats too. My argument is for you to be consistent with your principals.
The tweet isn’t even about building a movement though, it’s about leftist vets and the need to reconcile the inherent contradiction of their ideology and former status as imperialist beating sticks. Not to mention that the poster even says it’s not up to us American Leftists to make that moral judgement, it’s up to the victims of empire.
I mean sure, but again that’s not the point of the tweet.
If our fellow chapos were able to rationalize the tweet like that we wouldn’t even be in this thread, so we can’t really call anyone else radlibs when we’re pretty much doing the same thing lol
Lemmie dunk on any leftist who joined the army when there was virtually no left in america and it can be argued there’s still no left now.
Certain segments of left Twitter was too okay with bipolars and other people with mental and emotional issues dictate the conversation. No offence to those dealing with such shit but their emotional volitility and blatant uncoolness prevents anyone from seeing the far left as anything besides a pack of diseased LARPers crying about their lack of popularity inbetween the 80th party split that day
Bad post. You don’t have to have mental issues to be an asshole. And many people with mental issues aren’t assholes. Saying “no offense” doesn’t excuse stuff that is needlessly offensive.
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It doesn’t take an armed labour party to know that killing people for profit is not good.
