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it worries me how little emphasis is put on pr and international relations. if they dont clean up their act, they will lose momentum and international standing real fking quick. the anti-chinese sentiment is spreading rapidly, especially in critical zones like east and southern africa

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This is a major criticism I see from Chinese folks on r/sino. The west is waging a massive propaganda war and the Chinese Government isn’t really hitting back. Beijing thinks truth will prevail, but it rarely does in the face of coordinated disinformation.

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There’s exceptionally little China can do about it though. Aside from dismissing the West’s claims as nonsense and lies, anything they publish will simply be counter-dismissed as Chinese gommulist propaganda, topped off with a double helping of sinophobic red scareism.

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Chinese propaganda for foreign consumption is all hamfisted too. Not nearly as sophisticated as what VOA or the big European state-run broadcasters put out.

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Oh no, they are acting like Democrats

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Xi needs to make a twitter account and post

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oh god please no

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It makes no difference what China says, absolutely no one would believe them, the propaganda in the west would just step up.

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Any attempt to compete with western propaganda would require such demented levels of dishonesty that it would corrupt their entire system.

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lol as if pr would help them

nothing they actually say or do matters in that regard, they’re right not to focus on it

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If they are a rival to the US, the US will try to destroy them. How they run their country in no way shape or form changes that fact.

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core socialist values shall be embraced by the people

:CommiePOGGERS:

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tfw you legit want to ask if the cpc has a history of fulfilling their stretch goals

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Going to make a post that will anger both hardline Marxist-Leninists who hate Dengists and weirdo Western leftists who think Stalinism and Dengism aren’t real socialism yet simultaneously both state capitalism

I think the prospect of synthesizing the original orthodox Marxist belief in the necessity of a stage of bourgeois capitalist development with the Leninist conception of the dictatorship of the proletariat is actually extremely good and based and intriguing

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National liberation is a pretty key struggle, and I think there is every reason to believe that developing a national bourgeoisie is helpful in that struggle so long as they don’t gain undue influence in politics. Even the phillipines communist party, no fan of China, supports national liberation through the national democratic front. You can’t develop a communist society while imperialism is the principle dialectic in the world.

Love or hate Deng or China, it is undeniable that they are creating a multipolar world that is making it possible for other countries to follow their own socialist path.

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The problem ultimately I think is in trying to discern what ‘undue’ influence is. I think what bothers me about this view is that it pretty much erases the historical fact that 1. Maoist China existed, 2. It survived despite imperialism and aggression from both superpowers, 3. The nationalist bourgeoisie were liquidated after New Democracy properly came to an end in 1954. What made China a success in my view compared to say India is in fact that they realized that the bourgeoisie could never be CURTAILED so much as they had to be abolished, which is why Mao was so paranoid about capitalist roaders propping up - the revolution would never be complete without them being sequestered from society.

In my view, what you have in China is a situation where many of the elites that Mao and the left of the Party disdained are suddenly in a much better situation. As a personal anecdote - I knew kids who joined the Party in college because it meant that they would be able to get better finance jobs. The Party has become a sort of quasi corporate entity in that as an institution it doesn’t have a hostility to capital per se so much as it uses certain language to proclaim that it is against capital’s dominance. But my bet is that of Mao’s: an iota of capitalist influence will eventually corrupt any political project to overthrow it.

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As a personal anecdote - I knew kids who joined the Party in college because it meant that they would be able to get better finance jobs.

Why is that a bad thing? Would you prefer if success in finanace wasn’t contingent on joinging the party?

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Except it’s not a socialist path.

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I think it’s doomed to regress to capitalism and the thought of that is terrifying.

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And when they still just look like a capitalist country?

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Something tells me that’s not just a hypothetical

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I doubt I’ll even live to 2035.

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