Obviously this is not a big deal but it does irk me sometimes when people include ableism alongside the other isms or when they say shit along the lines of “as a disabled queer POC”. The logic being whatever aspect of your identity “disadvantages” you the harder you have it and the more righteous you are. It really is straight intersectional bullshit and trivializes the fact that race and gender are all things that are violently enforced to maintain the political rule of capitalism. It is true that disabled people suffer disproportionately under capitalism, especially under the pretext that all humans must work to produce value for profit, but hell capitalism fucks over all kinds of people. At the end of the day its just not a special form of oppression that deserves the same level of attention as forms of oppression literally centrally to capitalism. The reason questionable languages like this takes hold is because there is a plethora of liberal or straight up reactionary theoreticians the likes of Slavoj Zizek and Judith Butler that dominates the intellectual sphere and the revolutionary kernel of Marxism completely buried under paragraphs after paragraphs of indecipherable bullshit made up so some humanities professor can keep their pathetic job.

I’ll keep this thread open but if this becomes a struggle sesh, it’s gone.

Keep it civil yall.

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Are you talking the performance of sharing personal details? Was the “as a disabled queer POC” relevant to whatever discussion was being had?
Access and accessibility are things to always strive for, particularly physical and social spaces. This world is not made for disabled people, and it very well should be.

Idk that I’m understanding the OP honestly

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Of course it should be, under communism disabled people will be liberated because people will no longer be treated as sacks of surplus value producing machines that area discarded after depletion. But the point stands that ableism is not on the same level as the other forms of oppression it undeservedly stands next to.

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Do you seriously beleive that the only way people with disabilities are being discriminated against is in the form of being unable to work as productively and are therefore unable to provide for themselves under capitalism?

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But the point stands that ableism is not on the same level as the other forms of oppression it undeservedly stands next to.

why tho

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The second half of the paragraph is the important part, the first really describes the symptom but second the real disorder

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when people include ableism alongside the other isms or when they say shit along the lines of “as a disabled queer POC”. The logic being whatever aspect of your identity “disadvantages” you the harder you have it and the more righteous you are.

This is literally the “oppression olympics” shit that right-wingers spew.

Come on.

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read the post

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I did.

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At the end of the day its just not a special form of oppression that deserves the same level of attention as forms of oppression literally centrally to capitalism.
The reason questionable languages like this takes hold is because there is a plethora of liberal or straight up reactionary theoreticians the likes of Slavoj Zizek and Judith Butler that dominates the intellectual sphere and the revolutionary kernel of Marxism completely buried under paragraphs after paragraphs of indecipherable bullshit made up so some humanities professor can keep their pathetic job.

We did, and without further explanation from you this reads like class reductionist bullshit.

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so you think disabled people face the same kind of oppression that queer and people of color face? Gender oppression has been around since the inception of class society, the subjugation of races, their exploitation and expropriation created the bulk of capitalist wealth, what is the significance of the oppression that disabled people face historically? It is not something that gets to stand on equal footing with the other two, and quit throwing stupid names at me

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What do you think about the idea that disability is a relation to our function as productive workers and psychiatric hegemony?

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that is more promising

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