48 points

Lemmy thread about it is hilarious, you can observe as some libs are “Ukraine is winning” and “F16 are gonna change everything” but most of them already taken slow backstep from that position (took them barely 1,5 year!). You can already smell the post Iraq position shuffle in the air.

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They’ll still find a way to cope. Just like Iraq (Saddam was ebil dictatoor!), Vietnam (nuh-uh didn’t lose!), fuckin Finnish War (muh hwyte deaff!), and many many more

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21 points

Here is Putler hacking fake American elections

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21 points

hwyte deaff

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19 points

Ya know, I only just noticed that they’ve used a NATO reporting name for the “ghost”, but actual Soviet designations for the “kills”

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23 points

How many wonderwaffles does it take for a lib to realize that one weapons system very rarely alters the course of an entire conflict?

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16 points

No idea, it’s at least 5th in this war alone and they aren’t stopping.

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No no, you see, having your weapon systems cost 5 times as much money as the opposing side’s is a good thing actually. Clearly it means it’s 150 times more effective, according to this marketing presentation I found from the for-profit corporation that makes it and then sells it to the military and this press release from the general whose entire career is intrinsically tied to it, both of whom couldn’t possibly be biased in any way!

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22 points

Are F16’s even good? I ask as someone that knows Jack shit about weapons.

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They seems average. They do have at least one significant flaw, that large air intake apparently suck up things from runway during take off, which is why the plane need clean airstrip and it could be hard to get when Russians can just strike wherever they want with missiles. And of course the enemy air superiority also make them abot as useful as every other plane, that is not very much after getting bombed while on land.

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plus, another thing to put on the table is how well it operates with the other hardware, the country’s tactics and war discipline.

all modern armies work with the combined arms concept, meaning the air force for example it is not a separated entity, it needs the ground forces and the ground need them and so on, not as simples as 1 + 1 = 2.

this is one of the major flaws in ukrainian army, they received a bunch of hardware from different countries and different times, nato and warsaw, nothing combines with each other

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24 points

The first F-16 flew in 1974

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I was going to say that F-16s have been steadily upgraded since then but then realized that they’ll probably be given the oldest, shittiest, machines that could charitably fit a loose definition of “airworthy”.

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19 points

Obviously, it’s an earlier version of the superior M16 because F is before M in the alphabet.

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This is a common misconception, actually the F in F16 stands for Flight, denoting it is an aircraft or other craft capable of sustained flight, and the M in M16 stands for Meapon.

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43 points

wow okay so they’re literally throwing a tantrum

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42 points

Tbf those “critics” are the same “some of you may die” filth, no? The same bastards who started the slaughter to begin with

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42 points

They made attacks on a defensive line, reached a trench, the Russians pushed them back, and now they are cheering?

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40 points

fucking incredible

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