Check it out. I saw someone say it’s a live-action sports anime and while I would never watch an anime I assume that’s an accurate description. You’d be shocked how exciting they can make chess look in this show.

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It’s more okay now to depict the USSR in a positive manner because they’re no longer a threat.

I think it’s also the reason I’ve seen more positive takes on Chavez in the MSM lately. When Chavez was still alive, the tone was “Chavez must go!” Now it’s “Chavez wasn’t that bad actually, but Maduro must go!”

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I don’t know about that. Look at any other Netflix original that features the USSR and you’ll see the most reductive old school red scare bullshit imaginable.

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Yeah, the old Evil Empire narrative is still popular, but perhaps less so. I could be wrong; I wasn’t alive in the 70s and early 80s, so I don’t know how common sympathetic portrayals were.

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I don’t know if there were any, but Season 3 of Stranger Things is about as sympathetic to the USSR as Rocky IV.

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I might be getting the ending wrong

But isn’t there an implication that she defects to USSR. She abandons the CIA guy to stay in the Soviet union.

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I think it’s intentionally ambiguous but that’s an extremely reasonable interpretation.

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Beth: The match is adjourned.

CIA guy: What’s that mean?

When America sends its people, they’re not sending their brightest lol.

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The funniest part was when he was telling her she should be careful because he may send her secret communist signals through the chess positions or some shit lol

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___ I took it to mean that she just enjoyed the company of older people, since it reminded her of Mr. Shaubel.

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I took it around the same lines. After years of feeling alone and isolated, she visits a park of chess players, and is surrounded with adoration. Essentially Chess is her community, the people she enjoys being with and can be used by her to become a healthier person.

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Yes it’s good and you should watch it. Also, don’t believe your lying rational mind when it says there can’t be gay in this show. There’s definitely gay.

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I can think of three or four probable gay instances

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Kasparov was one of the consultants hired for the show. So it was pretty accurate and used real games and perhaps why it’s missing the general anti Soviet bias that we’re so used to.

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yea hes a rich piece of shit but he’s hired to make the movie accurate

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I didn’t know that, not at all cool.

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Yeah he is also super sexist and kind of a nut job who believes in an alternate view of history where it all basically started after like 500AD and Russia is the coolest throughout.

Basically chess players are gamers so they usually suck.

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Kasparov was only really consulted for the chess, not for the portrayal of the USSR.

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I didn’t know that, super cool.

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There’s a couple weird stuff like the KGB guys following the Russians to make sure they don’t defect, and kid obsessed with American culture, but great series nonetheless.

Critical support for Borgov

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Yeah, the Mexico City episode made me think it was gonna go super red scare but it totally turned that on its head as the show went on.

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I feel like the ending was a close as they could get to

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having Beth defect to the USSR as they could for an American show, which surprised me. I was expecting Borgov to defect for an overtly “pro freedom” ending, especially since Beth’s escort dropped hints of that.

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Beth definitely defected

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The KGB really did stuff like that, and it was made clear later than the US state department did too. And Harmon’s line “I’ve never gone to a drive in movie theater either” served to show the kid’s enthusiasm for American culture was misplaced.

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Kinda random but do you have a link to any articles/info on countries sending intelligence agents to make sure athletes don’t defect?

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