Jumping off a post on here I saw yesterday, I also listened to “Last Man in Davos” by TrueAnon, and I gotta say -
Wow, did that make me depressed. Why aren’t more people talking about it? I feel like the Nick Landian techno-capital singularity nightmare is just around the corner, and I feel like no one is gonna stop it.
I do think that as time goes on, and it becomes more well known, that many may start to talk about it. But for real, what do you guys think?
The worst part is the only people talking about it are right wing conspiracy nuts trying to say this is the rise of liberal communist globalism. This shit needs to be attacked from the left. Literally no normal people want to live like this.
Yes, this is exactly my thinking. I’m very scared that the concern over it will be limited to the right, and cause some sort of right-populist revolt because of the left’s inaction.
A big problem with the western “left” is the contrarian attitude towards anything the right latches on to. You saw this in the UK with Labour lefties supporting remain because they associate brexit with racism, and to some extent with the mainstream left not really caring about the Epstein stuff because they don’t want to look like Q weirdos.
I think if the right, especially mainstream GOP politicians start talking about Great Reset conspiracies and calling it a Communist plot by rootless (((globalists))), it will be considered antisemitic and insane to even mention it. The right will have complete hegemony over criticism and even breadtubers will start to support it for climate change reasons or something. It legit scares me. Like even right now I feel like if you brought it up at a PSL or DSA meeting you’d get weird looks and people will think you’re a crank.
I’m kinda split on it. On one hand a lot of what they described seems plausible. On the other - it’s very clear they have no idea how these au database thingies work, so im not really bring that part. Or if it happens it will be aot more distributed, broken and shitty than what the hosts described.
Their focus on everything being catalogued was a little over the top. But the main premise of you own nothing and your job is a few years away from being roboted isn’t far off from reality now.
Yeah, agreed. Also you don’t need to catalogue everything to turn everything into tradable commodities…
This was my biggest problem with it. Anyone who’s read an in depth dissection of Enron for example knows that you don’t have to even attempt to have a perfect AI or even basic quantifiable understanding of something in order to commodity and trade futures on it for example.
It’s about a willingness and incentive to believe.
OK, I’ve had a few beers and it’s hot(ish) take time…
I dig True Anon, I think this new neoliberal shift is sinister and worth discussing, but this episode just hit really wide of the mark for me.
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It was terribly explained, presented, and more than any other episode I’ve listened to could really could have used a guest and some structure. But getting more into the argument itself…
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You absolutely do not need a database or empirical understanding of something (never mind literally everything) to turn it into a commodity, trade, or exploit it.
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As @Uncle_Hoe put well below, the threat of database, technocracy isn’t being categorised, but being left out or considered insignificant.
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In a material way, how is what’s proposed any different from the reality of the world we live in now at the macro level? Do we honestly think there isn’t corporate backed conflicts for aquifers because they don’t have enough data and an easily explained financial product, as opposed to the risk and expense not (yet) being worth the effort of physically claiming them?
This is actually the first TrueAnon episode I ever listened to because so many people on here were talking about it. I had heard good things before but it really left me underwhelmed and I kinda decided that the podcast wasn’t for me at all. Any recommendations of episodes that you feel are a better example of why so many on here enjoy it?
I think most would agree that the Spider Network series are probably them at their niche, well researched hidden history best.
Obviously a lot of the coverage of the ongoing, less reported Epstein stuff.
A lot of the one-offs into a well defined topic - St Louis’ bizarre occult pre-KKK anti-union history, Deutsche Bank (although the Grubstakers multipart series is better), Peter Thiel & Planitir, & even the Paris Hilton documentary one that’s really about abusive ‘behavior camps’ that Brace has some first hand experience of.
How many concurrent apocalypses (apocalypsi?) are we up to now? We got the Great Reset, we got climate disaster, we got pandemic, we got always looming threat of nuclear war, we got the ligma protocol… fuckin A.
Climate
Pandemic
Economic
Housing
Political
That said, from what I’ve heard, the “great reset” is just a meta-panic about what the outcome of these crises may be. It doesn’t strike me as anything more than an agenda that a particular subset of capital would like to pursue, while their grasp over events is apparently slipping.
