欢迎大家来到咱们的第一个关于学习汉语的帖子。

我来介绍一下自己:我是一位中华人民共和国政府的奖学金获得者,现在我在一所中国大学读本科。我希望我帮你们提高你们的汉语水平!

在这个帖子你们都可以练习汉语,学习汉语,问关于汉语或者中国的问题,还分享内容。当然你们也可以教别人!所有的关于学习汉语或者中国事情都很受欢迎。

有用的学习资源:

对练习汉语有用的频道:

关于中国的频道:

来好好学习!

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Welcome everyone to our first Chinese language learning thread.

Let me introduce myself: I’m a recipient of the Chinese government scholarship, currently studying in a Chinese university. I hope I can help you all improve your Chinese!

In this thread you can practice, study, and ask questions about Chinese or China. Of course, you can also teach others! Anything related to learning Chinese is welcomed.

Useful learning resources:

Useful channels to practice Chinese:

Channels about China:

Let’s study hard!

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| Feel free to suggest more channels and learning resources |

🛑 Don’t be shy to practice and write in Chinese even if you are not that good at it, this thread and community is here just for that. Chapos will help you improve! 🛑

What are the common pitfalls for “false beginners”? I took classes in high school but didn’t study much and haven’t used it in almost a decade, but I want to start it up again.

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Just flashcards and studying honestly, and FluentU has a free trial for 14 days you can try if you want

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I have to agree with LesbianLiberty, the best way is to practice as much as you can. A lot of learners also tend to give up learning how to write characters (I did this as well), but in my opinion this is a mistake: repetition, practice and exposure are you biggest weapons.

I recommend Pleco for fasttracking and reviewing. Not only it is a great dictionary, but it also has a flashcard system and other goodies. Some people really like Anki as well, but I personally find Pleco to be the most convenient and easy to use.

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Many learners reccomend using flashcards like anki or some kind of spaced repetition software.

You might also try looking into the “Remembering the Hanzi” books, which are fairly controversial, but some people swear by them!

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in my experience the muscle memory you get from writing them a bunch of times just can’t be matched

those sheets with 20 boxes and the first character is filled in and you copy it 19 times

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Thanks for making this!

I’m learning but it’s slow going. Tones in particular are hard. I studied Japanese before back in high school, and the sounds were so much easier. I think that’s partly down to the nature of the language, and partly due to the copious amounts of anime I consumed back then.

Do you have suggestions for things to watch in Chinese, ideally with English subtitles? I’ll even take Douyin channels.

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你好,同志!I’m really happy you decided to embark on the adventure that is learning Chinese. I hope in this community we can all improve together.

Regarding the tones, I do believe they are really important to build a good foundation, but I also think it all depends on your needs and goals. Do you really want to talk with natives, go to China, etc? Then study tones seriously. You don’t have these plans in the short-term? Then relax, enjoy the learning experience, and get your tones slowly, don’t stress about them.

I think the two channels featured at the beginning of the thread are great:

Their videos have English subtitles, both speak perfect Chinese, they make entertaining comedy sketches, and with them not only will you learn Chinese, but you will also learn about China.

那年那兔那些事 (Year hare affair) is a mandatory watch for any comrade. I think you will like it specially, It’s an anime about the Communist party of China and the birth of New China. Super useful to learn modern Chinese history (Japanese invasion, PRC-ROC war, Korean war, etc), and super cute, interesting and entertaining.

Not many doujin users make content with English subtitles, I recall CGTN, if you are interested in news about China.

那欢迎来到这个帖子!有一天你可以跟我练习一下汉语。

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That content looks awesome. I’ll check it out for sure.

Do you really want to talk with natives, go to China, etc? Then study tones seriously.

Something I’ve found is it’s almost easier to speak to other second language speakers. They don’t get as caught up on tones, whereas when speaking to natives they really notice when a tone is wrong.

Nothing to do but keep up the 学习 I guess.

Do you have any recommendations re drilling exercises for tones? Just flash cards and memorising the tones associated with each word? I’d really like to drill my listening and pronunciation specifically.

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Do you have any recommendations re drilling exercises for tones?

I will tell you something good about tones: once your brain “clicks” and you learn how to properly pronounce them, they are super easy.

I can tell about you the way they taught us during the first preparatory year at my Chinese university. Basically, first we learned how to perfectly pronounce all 声母 and 韵母, then they taught us the tones, and we would have to practice reading every possible combination of 声母 and 韵母 using all said 4 tones. To put it in layman’s terms: we had to be able to read every possible Pinyin combination using all existing tones.

My recommendation is to build a good foundation, and then move up. Learn how to distinguish the tones perfectly, and don’t stop practicing until you can read mā má mǎ mà and any Pinyin combination clearly. Trust me, once you understand the sound and pronunciation of every tone, reading any word will become baby stuff. Sadly, the only way to achieve this is by practicing a lot, and checking videos/material that teach you the differences between the tones.

I believe we are both in the the Element chat, so if you need I might be able to send you recordings that will help you.

Just flash cards and memorising the tones associated with each word?

You will have to memorize which tones each word you learn uses, but the most important thing is to first learn the tones properly.

I think there are different good ways to memorize the tones of words:

  • Reading the words loudly
  • Writing the word’s Pinyin with tones
  • Definitely using flashcards.
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很可惜, 我從小學的是繁體字… 大概都看得懂檢體,可是沒辦法寫, 有一點不好意思. Don’t think it’s something I can unlearn at this point in my life, unfortunately.

Also my Chinese is probably filled with bad habits/ABCisms/Chinglish from growing up in an immigrant family. 平常不太喜歡用中文溝通, 因為每次都覺得像個十歲小孩在講話. But I feel guilty about letting my communication skills lapse as I mainly use my education to read nerd shit nowadays (I have a decent amount of self-taught classical Chinese under my belt if anyone is into that), so hope it’s all right if I pop in now and then even if I can only write in trad.

(Sorry to all of you trying to practice 漢字, this is probably really confusing)

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很可惜, 我從小學的是繁體字… 大概都看得懂檢體,可是沒辦法寫, 有一點不好意思

第一:最近我非常忙,所以我没有时间回复你或者别人。

第二:别担心,大部分中国人会读繁体字。但可悲的是,我是一位外国人,所以我不会。你和我的问题相反,繁体字对我十分难。

Don’t think it’s something I can unlearn at this point in my life, unfortunately.

我确定你可以学写简体字。Don’t give up!

Also my Chinese is probably filled with bad habits/ABCisms/Chinglish from growing up in an immigrant family.

别着急,我不是一位汉语为母语的人,我不能注意到。

平常不太喜歡用中文溝通, 因為每次都覺得像個十歲小孩在講話

你的汉语对我没有问题。有时候我觉得我说话像我老师一样。

Don’t let your Chinese lapse, I’m sure many comrades will be happy to practice here with you, me included.

Write as much as you want, don’t feel shy about it. Even if the 汉字 are 繁体, nowadays we have technology that can easily convert the characters, don’t let that stop you.

I hope I see you again in this thread, comrade.

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I just started learning Mandarin as a native English speaker

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hang in there, it’s steep at first but once you get the tones down you start learning really fast. since a lot of redundancy usually provided by grammar is covered by tones the grammar is fairly simple (no verb conjugation whatsoever) and the word order is a lot like English

the characters look very wild at first but within a few months you’ll see they are made of building blocks and often contain phonetic hints

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I hope we see you here often, comrade.

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