Nazis and the like deserve it, but it’s a slippery slope tho

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No struggle session needed. We should absolutely oppose the death penalty. Even in a revolution, once you’ve captured your enemies, there’s no more need for violence. If it’s gonna be done to war criminals I won’t throw a fit, but it should be something we oppose on principal.

And in the US in particular, it’s exactly what this tweet says. A way to lock up black men for a few decades and then murder them.

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Absolutely. It’s already been proven that the death penalty has no meaningful effect as a deterrent of crime, so the difference between imprisoning an evil-doer vs killing them is only the punitive satisfaction felt by the people passing the sentence, which is not a healthy attitude to foster in society. Punitivism is used in American society to justify our backwards legal system, disproportionate sentencing, and barbaric prison conditions. The sooner fetishization of punishment can be wiped from our collective consciousness, the better.

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So in a revolution you wouldn’t execute the people who are responsible immense pain and suffering and who also represent the best focal point for your enemies?

Fuck that, they get the wall.

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No, I wouldn’t. I’d make them work. Killing them doesn’t undo the pain and suffering. If they die during the course of a revolutionary war that’s different, but if you’ve won, there’s no point in killing them. Strip them of their power and wealth, make them work, imprison them, but there’s nothing to gain by killing them.

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They stripped Krupp of his power and wealth and tossed him in prison.

He died rich and free.

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one of Brandon’s former prosecutors who worked to uphold his sentence, now wants his life to be spared.

What a pigfucker. Death to prosecutors.

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“Deserve” and “the state should do it” are two very different things

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Very good point.

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The way we’ve tried to sanitize it as well is rather horrific. People are led to believe that just because we don’t do hangings or the electric chair anymore it’s become a more civilized process. Now it’s untrained state employees injecting people with tainted black market chemicals because pharmaceutical companies have stopped selling to the states. Multiple times now a person has survived their execution for hours or even days in agony after the state has injected them with poison.

A few years back a man in Utah was asking to be sent in front of a firing squad as it was more humane than our lethal injection.

Hard reading warning: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions/botched-executions

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As executions have gotten less gruesome, they’ve gotten slower and more painful. I’d rather be shot or guillotined than electrocuted or poisoned, but those show blood, so no thank you.

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The next one they’ll do is get people drunk at a rager until they pass out and then bury them alive. We only see the fun bits!

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If the state fucks up and kills an innocent person, you can’t take that back and make restitution, and the state WILL fuck up

I oppose it on ethical and principled grounds

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