I’m more of a lurker here, but I can’t seem to wrap my head around the spectrum of responses. At least personally, I’m copping to the ML bent here (same username) and telling people this community still has redeeming value, and I have people maligning me and telling me to log off? Wha-?
Are these people just suffering from lib brain, or am I missing something?
The redditor who started that is a r/neoliberal poster with a 17 days old account. Who likes to bitch about the FaR LeFt slightly progressive dems .
They are all falling for an op.
the chapo subreddit was okay when it was still <50k subscribers and not just this giant catchall for all leftposting. I remember a thread where half the users fessed up to not listening to the podcast at all. It was truly garbage.
Imagine thinking this is a bad thing
what the fuck is a virgil
You people never stop with your anti-Italian bigotry, do you?
Do you genuinely believe if more Americans rotated CTH into their listening schedule it would be worse off than what they’re probably listening to, or is this some canned meme response?
Reminds me, wonder if mugrimm ever caught wind of this site or if he’s fully migrated to Twitter? He was a good dude.
“half the users” doing a lot of work, since they want to imply that every subscriber commented, instead of the stupid anecdotal sample of “half the comments in a particular thread”
but holy shit chapo dot chat is one of the most insane things i’ve ever seen
they must’ve not seen much then
Imagine typing out and posting that shit on a website that gladly platforms the worst kind of scum humanity has to offer.
Posted on a site with an incredibly active sub with almost a million members called “breeding material”
I heard from someone else in the discord last night that V**sh was live, reading a chapo.chat thread (that was shitting all over him) on stream, so maybe this is related to that?
(edit: not sure if true but who even cares lol)
I was expecting this site to be absolutely swarming with butthurt radlibs by now, though I haven’t seen too much shitlibbery standing out. Maybe they decided to raid one of the last remaining vestiges of cth on reddit instead of registering to post here
I can only link you to the post that I heard it from here https://discord.com/channels/715996431617359922/730491611204812910/786785799470317578
So it’s just like /r/cth days where half the people complaining about it have clearly spent no more than four seconds on it and the other half are probably salty because they had a stupid take that got dunked on, then both halves go jerk each other off over how much they totally don’t care about r/cth or .chat and how they’re totally not mad it’s the chapos that are mad
Mmmm, agree/disagree
I think if you come here unprepared, the layers of irony can be overwhelming, particularly about China. I know most of it is tongue-in-cheek, but there’s an undercurrent of zealotry here that can be really off-putting. Criticize China and suddenly it’s not fun and games anymore, and suddenly everyone is jumping down your neck.
Then the “debate” always materializes into a “you sound super ignorant about China and fall for CIA talking points” versus “you’re taking marching orders from unsubstantiated Chinese state media” and no one grows or learns anything.
this, lol. The response to the post that was like “why is there less unions/labor protection in China” got actual serious responses compared to the “Why is there still billionaires in china, tankies owned” posts
no one grows or learns anything.
But people do actually learn things; that’s how radicalization happens, and most of us (and apparently reddit, too) agree that both the old CTH and here can radicalize people. It just doesn’t happen all at once, and it doesn’t happen without disagreement, and even when you move to the left you still don’t agree 100% on everything with other leftists.
Plus, at least so far, even contentious struggle sessions on here rarely turn into bitter. long-term pissing matches with other users. That seems appropriate given the scope of what we all agree on vs. where our opinions differ.
They want healthcare and to smoke weed and they think it’s funny when Chapo chides woke people. That’s it. The little bit of leftist content in chapo goes over their heads. Also it’s people who only know about other things through posting. They saw someone here make a president xi joke and since they get all their knowledge of China and leftism from memes on reddit, they get weirded out. A lot of people are pathologically incurious and will always navigate the world through posts they read.
A lot of the criticism of the old sub always seemed to mainly just involve calling the subs users mentally ill/fat/ugly/queer/trans
Don’t forget how we’re a russian/republican op, exclusively white males (that’s why we dunk on girl bosses like kamala and warren), and antisemitic (following our dear leader Bernard).
That’s what you’d see on Democratic/neoliberal spaces, I was talking about more stupidpol oriented ones
any leftist space with mostly Americans will have a larger than average population of people who are mentally ill/trans/queer/etc folk because the only surefire way of becoming a leftist in the USA is to feel a larger than average degree of alienation or some kind of debilitating poverty to the point where you have given up on attempting to integrate your personal ideology into the general consensus because your own personal experiences will not be congruent with “normal” business as usual American politics
also how cool is it that liberals see us as rich white dudebros and right wingers see us as depressed trans pussies
A lot of people are pathologically incurious
This has always been the biggest mindfuck in my personal life. Maybe it’s just because I probably have at least one Cluster A personality disorder, but I’ve never been able to understand people who can just take things at face-value without questioning them or doing their own research to the extent that they weren’t beat down or exhausted or something. I understand being exchausted and not haivng the energy to think about things, but how the fuck are you gonna be rich and comfortable and not be asking questions all the time?
how the fuck are you gonna be rich and comfortable and not be asking questions all the time?
I think you answered your own question.
Isn’t the entire point of getting rich the fact that you can ask questions and call out demonic cunts without worrying about starving or being banished to rot in a gutter?
Like I said, my brain simply can’t conceive of the idea of being uncurious. Evil, devious, uncaring, sure. But not wanting to know the real story? Inconceivable. Even if you’re a rich asshole who doesn’t care if anyone on Earth lives or dies, don’t you care to know what going on to spite your enemies? God damn, Capitalists suck! They aren’t even trying!
