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These projects should be closely studied by anyone making the case for an ecosocialist GND, of the Hawkins variety more so than the watered-down AOC variety.

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Agreed. Stopping desertification is good. Greening a historical desert is maybe good. Posting picture of sand hillside and green hillside next to each other when they’re obviously not the same hillside is bad.

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As long as they’re not wiping out desserts, I say keep going China.

On a serious note, the articles themselves aren’t that bad, but the headlines are a pretty poor choice of words considering the topic.

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Unverifyable clickbait is bad propaganda. Posting figures from peer reviewed articles showing these changes is good propaganda.

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Can we get some remote sensing/ geography academic articles about instead of horrifying clickbait with stock photos and by side pictures from different locations?

We can do better than Q-pilled boomers folks. If this is true , it should be well published. Better propaganda is made with verifiable facts than clickbait. We cant clickbait ourselves into a revolution.

Edit: the whole desert didnt disappear and only greened a little bit actually. https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2018ISPAr42.3.2127Y/abstract

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We can do better than Q-pilled boomers folks

Big if true.

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The more time I spend on cha.cha the less I believe

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Look, if we say our ideology is scientific, we don’t have to apply critical thinking or evidence based inquiries to anything else.

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Good point, I would love to see more evidence that these policies are doing what the headlines imply.

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Here’s a documentary posted here a while back

Here’s an interview with a woman who was part of the forest farm project from the beginning

Also looking up Hebei province on a satellite map shows just how much more green it is compared to the surrounding area.

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It’s crazy that China is one of the only countries trying to do something about climate change and the West is still able to fear monger about them.

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I agree but also disagree, the right shows every day that you can just make shit up that sounds good, I think it’s about tailoring to your audience. If I wanted to convert a load of dumb chuds, I wouldn’t just straight make stuff up but I’d sensationalise the fuck out of propaganda. It’s like when leftists debate conservatives, the right-wing viewers just want to see a lib get owned, they don’t care about facts, which is why I want to see a leftist who is good at roasting people just straight bully Shapiro or Crowder. Maybe we can train one up, raise funds for an improv class lol

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So where exactly did you get this notion of “very slight”? Did you even read that article?
Another more recent article also including 2017 data: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-78665-9

If this argument is about “vanished form the map” or “wiped out” then yeah those headlines are trash.

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