FORCE THE DAMN VOTE we don’t have to wait until 2028 for the battlelines to be drawn, do it now in the middle of the pandemic when the ambient political pressure is at its maximum
If people don’t realize now that their elected officials don’t care about them with a measly $600 check after months of nothing, how is a failed vote on m4a going to radicalize anyone?
I’m legitimately asking, I tried on r*ddit and just got yelled at. Just seems like it is pointless to put so much effort into something like a lost vote for something that probably won’t do anything to radicalize normies. No one (that isn’t already radicalized to some degree) cares that Joe is president and said he’d veto it, so how is this different?
Liberals will just run saying they believe in healthcare as a right while not supporting m4a in primaries to trick people just like ossof is doing in ga now
Who says that paltry $600 check isn’t going to radicalize anyone? It will and personally I wouldn’t use reddit as a means to gauge the attitudes of the populace, it’s an astro-turfed and censored website, it doesn’t represent anyone we should care about
People are getting radicalizing out there comrade, and we need to push for any potential scenario that intensifies the contradictions, and forcing the vote on M4A is one of them
Yeah definitely didn’t go out there to get reactions to the take, just happened upon a thread.
I guess my biggest question with this is how do you parley this vote into a vehicle for radicalization? Wouldn’t the media not cover the vote as much as they can and then give cover to those who do come under fire? Americans notoriously have a short attention span, so hoping this sticks until primary season seems optimistic.
I’m not saying the vote happening would be bad, more than it seems like a lot of energy expended within a corporate controlled system for very little gain. Open to having my mind changed.
This debate has just shown how nihilistic and full of sad losers the left is.
Can’t even fight for something to fight for it.
For the same reason it was important to vote in down ballot races during the election, nobody expects it to pass, it’s about acquiring political ammunition so demsocs and left-adjacent candidates can win in local, state, and maybe even national races in 2022
Woudlnt this just allow for more democrats who wouldnt vote otherwise to vote for it and trick more people?
That would be too much of a risk for the neolibs, and it would piss off their donors, the votes will reflect the actual positions
And the dems aren’t taking the senate anything before 2028 so its now or never, better for the left and Americans hurt by the pandemic to get pissed off it failed then nothing at all happening because of “whats the point” mentality
That would be too much of a risk for the neolibs, and it would piss off their donors, the votes will reflect the actual positions
Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand, and Elizabeth Warren all cosponsored the Senate version of the bill, then backtracked later. If everyone knows it will lose, the votes aren’t going to mean anything.
