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Fascism does not have a stable base in the US.

Fascism in Nazi Germany relied on massive foreign investment to maintain stability. Every single American corporation dumped commodities and raw materials in Nazi Germany. The Nazis needed these commodities to offer as concessions to their reactionary petite bourgeoisie, and to fund their war effort.

American corporations no longer have the same control of production. Capital has been exported abroad, and they rely on the value of the US Dollar to buy commodities. The US Dollar is losing its position as the world reserve currency. It will enter a hyper-inflationary crisis once China’s Digital RMB is deployed internationally.

American corporations can no longer provide concessions to the reactionary petite bourgeoisie. We have seen that throughout the pandemic. There has been no assistance to the proletariat nor the petite bourgeoisie. This will continue. The petite bourgeoisie will continue to lash out against the bourgeoisie, and the bourgeoisie will have no answers.

There are two resolutions to this contradiction:

  1. A genocidal imperialist war of extinction, with intense oppression deployed by the bourgeoisie democratic institutions at home.
  2. The petite bourgeoisie and proletariat uniting - with the proletariat leading the charge - and the creation of a proletarian state that will receive international support in exchange for ending the US empire.
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I’d argue that there has been a lot of assistance to the petite bourgeoise (PPP loans, 8 trillion leveraged treasury infusion into corporations which buy from petite bourgeoisie, plus petit bourgeoisie have money in the holy line that goes up because of the massive corporate giveaway)

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PPP loans

PPP Loans have been a scam. Small business have been getting rejected left & right. Shell companies for finance capital have been most successful at receiving PP loans, since they have the connections to contact banks &fill out the paperwork properly.

trillion leveraged treasury infusion into corporations which buy from petite bourgeoisie

The corporations which have benefited from the treasury infusion do not buy from the petite bourgeoisie. The treasury infusion has disproportionally gone to finance capital & tech, followed by monopolies on natural resource - particularly, oil.

60% of small businesses were predicted to close based on predictions back in June. The pandemic has been much worse than the conditions predicted. The rate of small business closures around me will absolutely exceed 60%, if it hasn’t already.

petit bourgeoisie have money in the holy line that goes up because of the massive corporate giveaway

This is true. Although, they own a much smaller portion. The proletariat also have money in the Line, but they also have an ever smaller piece.

The process of wealth accumulation - accelerated by the pandemic - has hurt the petite bourgeoisie and the proletariat.

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Disagree on the PPP loans. Except minority owned businesses (of course) have been systematically locked out. Yes it was a scam but anyone with a decent bank relationship got one. Think of your small business tyrants. I’m not saying it saved them by any stretch; but support certainly came to the petite bourgeoisie. And big companies do use lawn services, hvac, contractors, that are petit bourgeoise.

Not arguing the merits of your points - I think it’s right to say that they were abandoned comparatively, but also many were in a position to benefit, vis a vis tipped empppyees who get like $70 a week in unemployment benefits.

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Id say the material conditions are poor enough right now that fascism would result in a fast track to revolutuon.

On a global scale, no I dont think anyone would come stop us. China likely wouldnt see it as worth it, Russia wouldnt fight fascism, and there isnt really anyone else strong enough on their own to do anything about it. Hell, Im sure that the only reason people fought germany was because they were trying to expand. If they had stayed in their borders theyd probably have kept being a fascist country.

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Expand to where though? Free trade agreements make this a moot point, what more is to be gained? The only options they have are to attack Venezuela, North Korea, or Iran (or China if they’re really stupid) and what is that really going to do? We’re likely to lose more than we gain in such a war anyway.

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