My family immigrated from the USSR and even though we’ve lived in places that had dishwashers, we’ve never used them. We just do everything by hand and it’s fine??

Even if you do use it; I can understand getting all the chunks off before putting dishes in there, but if you’re rinsing it off too, just rub it with a soapy sponge a bit and you’re done?? Why would you almost wash it and then put it in the washer? It’s like cleaning before the maid comes.

If the answer is “so they’re sparkling clean every single time” then you’re a bougie and need to learn to have some humility. Some water stains on the bottom of your plate are a non-issue.

Edit: after reading the comments and talking it over with my friends, I’ve decided to elaborate a bit

Washing dishes by using a soapy sponge and running water: the best way

Scraping them then putting em in the dishwasher: oooh look at mr fancy pants over here. But if you’re running full loads on a new efficient washer then I guess I’ll allow it

Rinsing plates then putting them in the washer: fuck you

Filling the fucking sink with soapy water to wash dishes: what the actual fuck is wrong with you go back to your fucking Norman Rockwell painting you absolute psychopath

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you build up a mountain of dishes over a week and cram them into a machine that automates the process and saves water it’s not rocket science

if I need something again before the end of the week I hand wash it

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Inventions that save monotonous labor are good, folks

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Leftists saying that automating labor is bad, wtf

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There are definitely leftists out there who fetishize labor as a moral good. It’s often comorbid with the people who complain about petty shit that they find ‘bougie’, it’s all aesthetic-based politics.

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Indeed; however, we see repeatedly that machines which accelerate or automate labor are frequently not used to reduce labor while maintaining production, but are used to maintain labor input while accelerating production! This hold true even with the domestic; for instance, when washing machines were introduced, the laundering of clothes, rather than becoming a trivial task, increased in frequency as the required labor power decreased, with people electing to wear freshly laundered clothes every day instead of only washing them when soiled or after extended use.

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These kinds of insights are exactly why I purposely make provocative posts about mundane topics I feel strongly about but also know I’m probably wrong on

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everything is finger food straight from the package or you’re a liberal

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What, you’re not grazing on dandelions that pop up between cracks in the sidewalk? I knew this website was full of posers.

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saves water

This is super important imo. As great as the time you save is, the water you save is probably better.

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Dishwashers that meet the Energy Star certification rating are more water-efficient than handwashing and can be more energy efficient at making hot water than your hot water heater

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Yeah so it’s better to just put the dirty dishes straight in there. Yet you’ll see people “pre-rinse” and then use the dishwasher. That wastes even more water, but they’re too dumb to realize it.

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This is not only misinformation, it’s dangerous misinformation. The dishwasher clogs up if you put plates with big pieces of food in it.

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You gotta scrape off the big shit with a fork but most dishwashers today can handle little bits

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Not all dishwashers were made by incompetent marketing teams

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Yeah it’s a relic of an older time when dishwashers were shittier

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Yeah so it’s better to just put the dirty dishes straight in there

If there isn’t large pieces of food, yes; but you also have to remember to clean up the filter often.

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Not all dishwashers have filters, some use a garbage disposal type situation to get chunky bits out

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In North America they are plumbed to the hot water line and use the hot water heater to have warm water initially, but for the longer running cycles they reheat the water as it’s recirculating.

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Handwashing dishes is WAY more wasteful than the dishwasher. Like, most people use ~5x more water handwashing. Prewashing dishes then putting them in the dishwasher is the biggest waste though, since the dishwasher should be more than capable of removing stuck on particles of food since that’s it’s whole reason to exist.

I mean, if you think about it more, it makes a shitload of sense since a water pump and a lil heater can just keep scrubbing them for like a long ass time without getting bored or tired of it so it can just build in some pre-soak/pre-rinse time to soften things up before it even bothers to get into the soapy part.

And since it’s a pump and water jets the amount of water it needs to accomplish each task is smaller than filling a sink up (which is the most efficient way of handwashing but very few people do this anymore)

But it’s weird, right before I saw this I was reading this article about immigrants to North America being very mistrustful of dishwashers

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Genuinely so happy downvotes are gone because being ratiod by the comments is humiliating enough as it is

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Owning dishes is a bourgeois decadence. Eat directly off the coffee table. Kitchen and dining room tables are also a bourgeois decadence.

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