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The fear of a “normal” and stable life is hilarious in hindsight. I was listening to And Introducing’s episode on the New York rock scene in the 2000s and there are so many glaring examples even in that of how having a stable life has become more alien in such a short time (and how 9/ll basically kept parts of new york from being gentrified even earlier – thanks Osama for keeping rent down a little longer, I guess).

https://soundcloud.com/and-intro-pod/48-meet-me-in-the-bathroom-ft-graham-wright

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It’s not a terribly deep movie but it’s at least a little more nuanced than that. It’s actually pretty anti-capitalist, anti-consumerism.

Besides, isn’t the idea that you can get paid just enough to stop caring about other people and just buy furniture and waste your life working to make somebody else more money a little bothersome?

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holy crap, you could buy stuff straight from ikea? like, not used?

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The golden days when like, half of the people could afford a brand-new Kramfors.

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I was thinking about this movie recently! Durden managed to create a huge working class movement/revolution by uniting alienated men. Then he blew up a bunch of what, banking offices? Pretty fucking rad tbh

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Yeah. It’s telling, that the Talking Simpsons podcast had two of the Chapos (Will and Felix, I think) guest on their “Homer’s Enemy” episode. They pointed out how Grimes represents the entitled nature of younger people, but at the same time, seeing Homer sleep through life feels like a valid grievance.

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I was not allowed to watch simpsons as a kid but I rigged a coathanger to the back of the TV and figured it out anyway. My older brother saw one of his friends do it. That’s how we learned EVERYTHING back then.

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same, parents had to lock out every channel with parental controls and they hid the cable

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It’s a traditional sitcom using a cartoon base. It leans on both sitcom and animation tropes with a wink to the audience. For example, sometimes the house will be a shithouse in a bad neighborhood, sometimes a mansion in a good neighborhood. Everything in the Simpsons depends on the plot. Sometimes they can’t even afford good toilet paper IIRC.

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I feel like the Simpsons also conveyed the desperation the working class is feeing today, though, in the good seasons that is. It’s just intensified as time has time has gone on. They are constantly skrimping and saving. When homer’s company stock increases, Marge is excited that they will finally have a savings account (though Homer goofs and cashes it out when it’s $20 and buy’s an expensive beer). When their dog needs an emergency surgery, they have to cut things out of their life and modify their standard of living for a little while because of their lack of money. In the first episode, when they have to pay for an impromptu tattoo removal for Bart that consumes their Xmas present money, and Homer doesn’t get a holiday bonus, they are unable to purchase any Christmas gifts and Homer is forced to shop at the 66 cent and below store.

I guess what the tweet is getting at is still true, that the Simpsons embodied a typical suburban existence that is becoming less and less possible. But even in that embodiment, the Simpsons were barely hanging on to middle class status in the show, and little bumps along the way threatened to throw them off of it at any moment.

Edit: or maybe they weren’t saying that things weren’t hard for the Simpsons, but rather that their standard of living is now impossible for someone of Homer and Marge’s background

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I think this attitude is still around, too. I have a modest home and a kid on the way, and it seems like everyone expects me to be climbing some corporate ladder right now.

It’s like this brain diseased, “chase a dream that you didn’t conceive for yourself” mindset.

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Couple of generations and people will be chastised for wanting a job that pays money and not serving as a bloodbag for some decrepit billionaire ghoul in exchange for Amazon vouchers

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It is weird how people forget about that “end of history” period.

Makes the matrix hit different, thats for sure.

I think, the thing that gets me the most is how much the sneering dismissiveness about everything was just an affect.

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I had just recently learned how the columbine guys were ultra conservative white power types. Blew my mind for how much they got portrayed as goth anarchist types.

They were the prototype of the modern school shooter chud. We were just never told about it at the time. Part of me thinks the cops and the media that investigated at the time just thought their ultranationalism sounded normal and didnt think to report on it. They would have loved gamergate and all that.

Yeah, the US running out of coke and being hungover for a generation, deciding that there was never gonna be the energy to do anything again is the perfect solipsism

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