getting ready to vote for a pro-dirty break Trotskyist as our electoral coordinator

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Is that good?

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yah he’s my buddy and very based i’m excited as hell cause he’ll probably win dirty-break = moving towards establishing an independent socialist workers’ party and limiting use of the D ballot line to strategically wise races

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I thought you were using some euphemism for bathroom break.

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I really cant understand the whole idea behind this tbh. Have you actually worked on any campaigns? Why would you want to do even more electoral work by making the entire process harder and more expensive and complicated every step of the way? Wheres an example where we’d run someone in some new party on a 3rd party ballot line? Why is there some assumption on the viability of 3rd parties now when its never really worked in the past century? Maybe im misunderstanding the whole thing but it just seems like needless work and i dont see the strategy behind it or what its supposed to achieve. Theres plenty of other socialist 3rd parties right now, the answer is we need another one?

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Seems to me that working under the Dems’ ballot line has also been “needless work” in the sense that it has lead completely nowhere. It has only served to give people the false sense of hope that the Democratic party will change, so they are willing to cling onto it longer. Elections should be used as a propaganda and organization-building tool, with the bonus that maybe you get some people elected, not as the strategy itself.

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I’ve worked on a ton of campaigns. The Democratic ballot line is useful but we have to be clear that it is a tool. Too many DSA people have this idea in our heads that we can fix the Democratic Party, which we cannot. They will always crush and disarm any progressive or socialist attempt to change the party. The answer is the dirty-break: using the Dem ballot line where it’s useful and moving towards the goal of forming a socialist party with mass membership and a real connection to labor. I recommend these articles: https://reformandrevolution.org/2021/01/21/winning-the-dirty-break-under-biden-what-next-for-dsa/ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qyCCLfy335UWUzrUSR-c7-Awkl97dKNN/view

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Mine is today as well, but I’m skipping it. Probably not a good idea.

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Agreed! also he does support the demcent philosophy as well haha but yes

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