What is considered white. Hell, I’m Sicilian and some of my Hispanic friends are as light or lighter than me. Of course we know with chuds, they will find another group to demonize.
I’m reading a book on immigration by Chomsky’s daughter and the thought just came to me. I’d like for that to be the case, my girlfriend is a Latina and a lot of my friends are as well, I’d rather them eventually be absorbed into the whiteness blob so they aren’t in quite as much danger from bigots.
After that, I’d rather whiteness as a gatekeeping concept go the fuck away entirely.
I mean it’s already happening as we speak. Look at Trayvon Martin’s killer. Look at all these “Hispanics for Trump.” Or all the reactionary Cuban-Americans in South Florida.
Yep the same thing happened with Italians.
I’m wondering who the next scapegoat will be?
I was also thinking Chinese (or Asians in general, but especially those of Han Chinese descent) will be the next big scapegoat for chuds. People stereotyping them about COVID will not help at all. I hope I’m wrong, but right-wingers rarely exceed my extremely low expectations. Then of course there’s the never ending popularity among fascists of always hating blacks and Jews no matter what.
It’s unfortunate this something we can even speculate on, but I know how American reactionaries are.
American capitalists will continue to create arbitrary racial divides until you slaughter your rulers and replace them with a democratic peoples republic.
You should murder every single oligarch and corrupt politician and purge your society of all liberalism. The DPRK took this necessary step during our revolution and created a worker’s state lead by the people.
Too bad they forgot to purge the black market. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jangmadang Or maybe it’s the People’s Black Market and is allowed to exist for developing Productive Forces™
Leave it to a leftcom to claim you can just abolish a black market.
I don’t claim they even want to, they were a market economy all along. .And they are liberalizing too. All that posturing and suffering and bullshit about socialism and all it amounted to is painful decades of a sham “socialism” that is gradually revealing it’s true face. North Korea should unironically do a Dengist reform and just admit they are capitalist.
damn turns out when nearly everyone is sanctioning them and their agricultural environment is shit, people turn to black markets
Considering that they already have markets, maybe they should just legalize the black market and embrace what they always were : a state capitalist economy.
White Hispanics, sure.
But if you look more indigenous or too brown, I don’t think so.
The ones that are really brown, yeah they’re going to continually be subject to full on discrimination for sure. I think Hispanics with a more olive skin tone are probably eventually going to just be seen as white people, which is always good being subject to less discrimination is always a good thing.
The concept of whiteness in and of itself is trash though. Not as in recognizing that it exists and hurts and oppresses people, more-so that it’s used to gatekeep people out of being considered a full human and citizen of the country.
Whiteness needs to go. I can’t wait for that part of this shit hierarchy to fade away.
I think Hispanics with a more olive skin tone are probably eventually going to just be seen as white people, which is always good being subject to less discrimination is always a good thing.
Ehhh, perhaps on a really sandblasted macro-scale perhaps, but knowing spanish and having spanish last names outs someone really quick as not being part of the “in-group”.
That and also being denied access to the decades of accumulation of wealth that the white population has access to may sour things a bit.
Yeah, I just think those things will matter less over time as the US becomes overwhelmingly Hispanic.
Im not a sociologist (though I’ve heard sociologists share my sentiments) so keep in mind this just basically a shower thought from me
It would be nice for my girlfriend and potential kids and grandkids to not deal with as much bigotry as being in an outgroup entails,
There are already-existing racial divides in central and south American countries that I know just enough about to know that I don’t know enough to talk about it intelligently, lol. But I would say, yes, that immigrants that can visually “pass” the paper bag test will become more and more accepted into whiteness, while people whose families may have immigrated from the same country in the same generation (so they’ve “been here,” as people say, for the same length of time) may still be considered outsiders because they look “too black” or “too indigenous.” I don’t think there’ll be a new group to demonize, there will just be a new line drawn that will include white-appearing Hispanic people, while everyone else might be told to “go back where you came from” no matter that their family has been US citizens for 4 generations or whatever.
Best friends with a Hispanic dude. Have seen him be called white and even a colonizer. (By white ppl). Last name is literally Hernandez lmao.
To be fair the Spanish were colonizers. Not saying this applies to your friend.
Hahaha true he’s just a brown Cuban dude so it’s funny to hear whites calling him a colonizer
Well we would be getting into the realm of Spanish race science then. As racist as us Anglos are, we don’t hold a candle to the Spanish when it comes to arcane blood quantum mathematics. Personally I think the whole idea of blaming random people for being colonizers these days isn’t helpful unless they are doing active colonizing like building pipelines over reservations or something. Yes in the abstract calling someone a colonizer can be correct in a theoretical sense, but most normal people will just look at you like you are a nut.
