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Edit: Posting this was suggested by fellow comrade /u/ScreamoBMO the topic was how to reduce risk when consuming LSD (commonly known as acid). Please be aware that taking acid doesn’t make you cool, posting does. If you struggle with substance addiction I recommend not reading further.
That doesn’t help your friend, however as general advise I recommend doing acid after you are 27, do it in sessions which are at least 2 weeks separated from each other (without the effect of other drugs, so no THC, alcohol, coffeein (at best), speed, MDMA, shrooms, keta, coke, or so). Do have a friend with you who doesn’t trip and you trust enough to trip.
In case you got LSD tabs (so small, thin less than fingernail sized tabs of paper with around 100 to 125 mikro per tabs - 100mikro for LSD25(*) and 125 for stuff like 1p-LSD) do take less than an eight of a tab, so not more than 12.5 mikrogramm (this is roughly! use a scissor to prepare your tabs before) for your first test. Stay at home, start early-ish (since the effect will last to 10-12 hours and some people are still energized after 12-14 hours, take it early enough before you want to go to sleep).
Acid is working in over long periods of times, however you will notice after a while like a few dozend minutes that you have a slight effect. The maximum effect will be the first peak (or hilltop as I call it now). from then you will have a slightly reduced effect till you find you are suddenly at a new hilltop (which isn’t quite as high as the one before) and this goes on till you have traveled towards the outskirts of your journey. In that way it is like hiking: you start with the big hill you want to climb and then you move through a hilly side back to the grasslands.
If you start with that “low-ish” of a dosage you will get a slight feel for some (but not all!) effects of acid. You might be more relaxed, a bit more happy, the world might look less gray than it is usually the case, some people take it in as more colorful. You might feel a bit off, which is your brain telling you that unusual experiences are going on. That is normal and nothing to worry about, remember: after the trip which lasts at most half a day you will be fine and you are safe with a friend and an environment you know.
I strongly recommend to prepare a few fruits and an easy dinner to eat during your trip and have something to drink (water, tea, juice) ready. Also I recommend to have nice blankies and if you like the possibility to play relaxing music (and the option to turn it off it is too much). Furthermore having a few pens to draw can be nice. Cuddling might feel nice, however at the first trips I recommend not doing sexual stuff with your trip sitter (and some might never do, which is fine and some advise). You might feel more horny than usual, you might feel more active and energetic, might talk more to your trip-sitter and draw some connections you typically don’t. You might be introspective, but at that dosage it should be hand-able. I don’t think acid is for everyone (and if you are on some medication like MAO-blockers or antidepressants or such it might actually not have very much, or different, or no effect except stress for your body).
After such a trip wait at least the 2 weeks so that you don’t have tolerance buildup and if you like you can increase the dosage to a bit below a quarter of a tab (so less than 25 mikro). This will be a vastly more intense trip with new effects. However since you learned how to experience acid you can see which elements are new and which you already know. You will also be able to handle feelings better. E.g. letting go of emotion and having the trip sitter with you. Typically and with time most people I know will go to something like an 1/8s of a tab plus a bit so you are around 20 mikro.
The next trips would be either the same-ish (or lower) dosage as before and changing the setting e.g. walking in summer through a forrest that is easy to reach (when you feel comfortable with that and can easily reach a safe place from there - remember not to drive your car for 1-3 days after tripping). Alternatively slightly increase the dosage by not more than a bit over an 1/8s to 1/4 max per time and stay in rooms you know and feel safe in. If you increase the dosage or have dosages that are above 45 mikros or so I recommend to not go to clubs, festivals and alike unless you have some experience.
The effect of acid varies strongly influenced by set, setting, dosage (and skill). The arbitrary levels of sub-microdosing (nearly no experienced effect), microdosing (small effects), "meso"dosing (20+ mikro), the fluid-fun zone (anything between meso and intense), intense trip (50+ mikro), deep trip (70+ mikro), very deep (and only recommended rarely after reducing tolerance and after several month gaps in between, more than 70).
I personally don’t recommend at all anything that is a whole tab, or more (100/125 mikro+).
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or lawyer and the effects vary by person, as such even the categories will be different to some, I would advise to go step by step, though
Within the fluid-fun zone to intense trips, you will very clearly feel much more influence of the atmosphere of where you are onto yourself. This means loud places and streets are bad, but comfy places might be nice (and relaxing music can be nice, but also too intense). Clubs and festivals might be mega intense and depending on yourself you might be comfy with a few trusted friends cuddling and dancing, but also have moments of just cuddling in under and with blankies for an hour or so. When you go into the intense trip dosage it could be that you reflect on yourself and your past and how social relations and feelings built up your personality and such. Remember you will have no otherworldly view of the world, but have experiences cause by yourself and your conscious. You might feel more connected to the world and others. You might also want to redose often and take more, this I don’t recommend. If you did trip a couple of times, some people do take a bit of THC which for some kick offs a different kind of trip, that is intense. I have varying emotions about it and would advise to test it on a smaller dosage of both than what you typically know.
Acid dosage doesn’t give linear effects. Double the dosage and you won’t have only double the effects, but much more in quantity and different ones in quality.
Q: When I do it as you advise wouldn’t that mean I am busy over multiple summers with LSD?
A: Yes. This might happen. However it is more secure and you might be able to enjoy the effects much more than when you take a whole tab and don’t quite know what to expect. From the people I spoke with and who tripped and those who tripped with me it seems that step by step reduces bad experiences and increases the resilience of the people testing. If you find out early on it isn’t for you long term negative effects are more rare and as such people can enjoy it more if it helps them. There were also studies (or at least 1) that showed that people who had slight increases in dosages would be more comfortable with their LSD experiences. As such I advise the at least 2 weeks gap between trips (and that is also to reduce tolerance effects) and have a handful of steps to reach a trip of 50+/70 mikros (which many people in the past started out directly with).
Q: How should I store the excess LSD when it takes so long to consume even three tabs?
A: I advise to not store material that is criminal in your country at home. However this is an example in which the society and its repressive laws do increase problems. It would be best to have known tabs of a known source and have them stored well and tested (this is the first tab you want to use, send it to a lab). Acid stored on a paper tab can be stored by wrapping it up in aluminum foil and putting that into a plastic bag so that no water will get to the tab. It ought to be stored at a cool (at least below 20°, but not freezing(?)) , dry and dark(!) place. Some people bury it in the outsides (watch fingerprints, also be aware many police jurisdictions don’t need a warrant to dig stuff up or catch you during the act, but would need one for your home).
(*): Please consider that some tabs that are bought don’t just contain LSD25, but sometimes are laced with an unwanted drug to deliver a fast kick. This is not ideal as the interactions and reactions are more different than from one substance. If there is a possibility to drug check , do send a drug check station of your country one of your tabs so it can be tested.
In a warm and sunny place like Greece, growing your own San Pedro cactus and doing a mescaline extraction once they’re large enough may be worth it. There’s also legal plant sources for DMT. I don’t know about the RC market nowadays, maybe there’s a few psilocybin analogs that are still legal in your jurisdiction. 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MIPT and the like.
I’m also only mentioning general options here. I hope nobody starts posting sources, that’s the one thing to avoid in online drug discussions (i’m serious about that, don’t post sources like that one time in the benzo thread, this gets forums in trouble, it gets vendors in trouble, it ultimately contributes to reliable, legal sources drying up).
This is a good post. In particular the advice about testing the water with dosage. I did one tab my first time and it was plenty, let me tell you, but I had already experimented with mushrooms pretty heavily. The worst and most easily avoided mistake people make is to take too much the first time or take some, get impatient that it’s not working, and take more.
Psychedelics are a more than worthwhile experience to pursue, but caution is warranted. Most drugs pick you up and put you back down. Psychedelics change your relationship with reality and your own mind, and it’s hard to imagine what that’s going to be like beforehand or predict how you’ll deal with it. What @JuneFall is outlining here is absolute maximum caution and safety. You might YOLO it and take acid the first time with no problems and have a great time, especially if you limit your dosage and manage your set and setting, but this is a really excellent outline about how to approach acid with a maximum of safety.
If you have access to mushrooms, that’s another option as well, and most of these recommendations would be just as effective. Dosage can be tricky due to variable potency but starting with perhaps 1.75 grams would be a reasonable starting place. Absolutely do not go mushroom picking if you don’t know what you’re doing, but stick with lab-grown psilocybin mushrooms. Plan to not be around strangers, even more so than acid. I find it tends to be much less cerebral and more emotional/spiritual, less visual than acid. It’s also a much shorter trip, ~5-6 hours.
I also find acid to be a bit trickier than mushrooms in a sense. When I’ve done acid, I feel much more clear-headed than on mushrooms, but your thinking is still disordered. The first time I did acid, some friends of mine decided they wanted to start a fire. I was busy inside talking to someone who was having a rough time and after they started feeling better, I went outside to see how they were getting on. They had decided that the best way to start a fire was to pour gasoline into a plastic bucket and light it on fire. By the time I got there, they were sitting around a flaming puddle of melted plastic that had fused to the driveway of the house with couple of tree branches they had thrown on top of it. The best part was that they had walked right past an old, dry Christmas tree sitting on the porch, one of the most flammable things imaginable, to do this.
Thanks for your post and appraisal.
The…most easily avoided mistake people make is to take too much the first time or take some, get impatient that it’s not working, and take more.
Is a really big point I might’ve highlighted more. I sure did it when taking Shrooms (Psilocybin) the first time. It is also true, that my post is setting pretty cautious ways. How you trip and how you act are your own choices. I know plenty which differed my my suggestions and who were fine. It isn’t that if you ignore those points that you will have a bad trip. It just enables you, as PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS writes, to be better equipped with more intense trips and have likely less problems when starting in steps.
great post! i wonder if we should consider having a drugs comm 🤔
just a small correction to your last point - tabs being sold as acid with 2C-B is pretty rare, because the dosing is in the tens of milligrams and it doesn’t usually fit well on a standard blotter. you’re much more likely to encounter an NBOMe like 25b or 25i, which can be VERY dangerous and have been known to cause fatality at doses as low as two tabs. testing your drugs is always a good idea, and on top of that remember: if there’s a bitter or strong metallic taste to the tab, just spit it out.
in some countries, you can legally buy some LSD analogues online; 1P-LSD is a popular variant that is essentially the same thing as traditional acid. i’d personally trust this over street deals to be the right drug and proper dose, although there are scammers out there.
25b or 25i, which can be VERY dangerous and have been known to cause fatality at doses as low as two tabs
Thank you. As someone who has permanent affects from NBOMe and NBOMe mixed with Molly - please avoid this God damn chem at all costs
just a small correction to your last point - tabs being sold as acid with 2C-B is pretty rare
Agreed. I was mistaken on that one. Stuff can be laced but acid on blotters isn’t 2C-B laced as it wouldn’t be enough to have effect.
you’re much more likely to encounter an NBOMe like 25b or 25i
Agreed. Though I wanted to highlight that even if you are correctly sold acid, sometimes it is laced with acid + another substance (see link). But what you write is important. In terms of taking acid, the usual way is to take the paper cutout you have and put it under your tongue for a quarter of an hour or so, some swallow it (but the set in is a bit reduced then). Some put it into a glass of water and drink (but not so common for acid, more common with crystalline MDMA).
1P-LSD is a popular
Is close, but not quite LSD. Can be safer than street LSD, esp. since most of the 1p on the European market seems to come from a few number of production facilities, so the quality and content are pretty similar (mostly reaction waste seems to differ in quantity). However I am not an expert.
Is close, but not quite LSD.
I’ve had about 10 different trips on both and I have yet been able to distinguish the difference. Chemically, there obviously is one, but practically there really isn’t.
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damn. well, looks like a nice post at least. shame i get addicted to stuff so freaking quickly -_-
Should note though that LSD definitely isn’t one of the most addictive drugs out there, I’d say far less addictive than common things like weed and caffeine. Tolerance builds so fast that it is very impractical to dose more than a few times a month. I’ve personally struggled heavily with addiction, but never at all when it came to LSD. Usually a trip leaves me having been glad I’d done it, but not wanting to do it again for at least a few months.
LSD definitely isn’t one of the most addictive drugs out there
LSD and psychedelics in general are the reverse of addictive for me; they’re so intense and life changing that I’m psychologically exhausted after taking them and won’t even consider taking some again before a while has passed. DMT or Aya even more so - I’m trembling in fear before taking it.
Good points.
LSD itself isn’t considered an addictive drug. In terms of dependence risk, it ranks below caffeine. There is also much less physical harm in using LSD via David Nutt. People might want to re-experience insights they had during trips and such. For recurring micro dosing the studies about risks aren’t there yet. Without stigmata of society and without having to work and be sober 5/6 days out of 7 I might’ve written a different warning (just thought that if I think about acid, I also think about other psychedelics and stimulants).
It might be used in therapeutic settings (e.g. to reduce substance abuse of alcohol, as part of therapy with depression, etc.). Related the use of psilocybin (shrooms) is also continually discussed.
I am not a doctor. So I value input of people who have their own perspective and experience, like /u/cosecantphi.
I’ve seen that drug dependence and harm chart a lot, and I really think it is useful to show people who don’t know much about drugs. Growing up with DARE and being told that all illegal drugs including weed will kill you and everyone around you, I was very surprised to see a chart similar to this one while I was in high school. It was what inspired me to begin dabbling. I was like, damn, caffeine is a worse drug for you than mushrooms? Holy shit.
Of course I immediately learned that DARE and pretty much all the adults in my life lied to me about weed. So I figured everything else they said was bullshit too. Most of it really was bullshit, but still I fucked up and got too complacent and wound up with a pretty bad opiate habit that derailed my life.
That is to say, drug education really needs a ton of work in the United States. Preaching pure abstinence is just a shitty idea, and so is prohibition.
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