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This is what DC does to you.

Some guys in suits pull you into a closed committee room and say “This is what we can’t tell anyone but you. It’s the RAW intelligence. The real deal.” Then they show you absolute horseshit for hours. And, before they leave, they say “But it’s secret intelligence, you can’t tell anyone”. Then you’re left winking and nodding and telling your constituents “Trust me on this one, I know things”, perpetuating the hoax by omission.

This is why guys like Trump piss the bureaucracy off so much. He’s equally credulous towards InfoWars as The Deep State and considers every one of them just an avenue with which to grift. He’s too corrupt to be corruptible by this shit. But Ilhan’s supposed to be the voice of the Muslim Minority. She’s ripe fruit.

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He’s too corrupt to be corruptible by this shit.

Is it bad that this is a lot of the reason why I both love and hate Trump? He wears it on his sleeve and it’s honestly refreshing. Guy was the post-modern president.

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Eh. Guys like Trump get to flaunt their corruption because they know they’re protected. That impeachment conviction vote is a clear example. Just utterly impervious to consequences.

He’s a different kind of horrible, which is “refreshing” in so far as it pisses off the libs. But it’s still fucking horrible. Even as a milquetoast-on-war guy, he still managed to reek havoc on Latin America and the Middle East.

My fervent hope is that Biden’s going to be entirely too tied up managing domestic disasters to dip his dick into foreign affairs. But it always seems like we’ve got money in the banana stand to do something reckless, monstrous, and stupid.

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Where can I learn more about this? I’ve picked up a good bit of hearsay about the bureaucracy/deep state/whatever but I’ve never seriously studied it.

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TrueAnon recently did a premium episode called Deep State 101, it’s ep 135. you could probably get it from r/blackepsteinfeed

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Thank you!

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I think there’s a running theme of sunni chauvinism in a lot of her seemingly hypocritical positions

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It seems more Turkey-centric.

Ilhan Omar takes money from the pro-Erdogan Turkish American Steering Committee (TASC) [1] and has attended conferences with the Erdogan family.

The TASC lobbied against the recognition of the Armenian genocide and sanction placed on Turkey for their invasion of Syria. Ilhan voted present & against, respectively, rebuking the Democratic Party line on each.

This also fits with her endorsement of East Turkestan separatists. I’ve understood the East Turkestan terrorist organizations to be a part of Turkey’s imperial project. The East Turkestan Liberation Organization was founded in Turkey during the late 80’s, around the same time China began reporting an upsurge in separatist violence [2]

Edit: Tulsi was cancelled in 2018 for her Modi connections, but Ilhan can buddy up with Turkish fascists no problem. It’s almost like Left-wing discourse is easily manipulated, and the real issue with Tulsi at that time was her actions against the US occupation of Syria.

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Fuck, I didn’t know about this. Thats really fucking bad.

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Micheal Brooks did talk about this a bit before he passed.

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i didn’t know any of this, thanks ignorant amerikkkan education!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdoğan

In December 2008, Erdoğan criticised the I Apologize campaign by Turkish intellectuals to recognize the Armenian Genocide, saying, “I neither accept nor support this campaign. We did not commit a crime, therefore we do not need to apologise … It will not have any benefit other than stirring up trouble, disturbing our peace and undoing the steps which have been taken”.[93] In November 2009, he said, “it is not possible for those who belong to the Muslim faith to carry out genocide”.

oof

In January 2016, more than a thousand academics signed a petition criticizing Turkey’s military crackdown on ethnic Kurdish towns and neighborhoods in the east of the country, such as Sur (a district of Diyarbakır), Silvan, Nusaybin, Cizre and Silopi, and asking an end to violence.[251] Erdoğan accused those who signed the petition of “terrorist propaganda”, calling them “the darkest of people”. He called for action by institutions and universities, stating, “Everyone who benefits from this state but is now an enemy of the state must be punished without further delay”.[252] Within days, over 30 of the signatories were arrested, many in dawn-time raids on their homes. Although all were quickly released, nearly half were fired from their jobs, eliciting a denunciation from Turkey’s Science Academy for such “wrong and disturbing” treatment.[253] Erdoğan vowed that the academics would pay the price for “falling into a pit of treachery”.

bigger oof :C

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this is darker than i expected

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If she’s from somalia she’s most likely not even the same kind of sunni.

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maybe, but the sunni schools are no where near as different as Christian sects. You’ll only notice the differences if you’re a huge nerd who spends too much time reading that shit.

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Never expect any elected official to be critical of our foreign policy. You’ll just be disappointed.

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definitely one of the lessons I’ve learned over the last few years

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:ilhan: = :obama-drone:

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It doesn’t cost you anything to keep your mouth shut and not repeat CIA propaganda

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You’re making an excellent argument against any amount of electoralism

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I know this can be hard to understand, but you don’t have to tweet your opinion about everything you hear

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I think it’s useful for entryists to see so hopefully they begin to understand the futility of their strategy. You are right though that there is a logic behind the squad doing shit like this, which is one of the reasons for that futility

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she could have not tweeted about it

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1 She didn’t deny the Armenian Genocide. She clearly implied it should be recognised, but not used as a tool in America’s growing animosity towards Turkey.

For people who pride themselves on seeing through American propaganda, Chapos somehow missed that this whole spat with Turkey was to enforce American control of its NATO allies. Turkey opposed the Iraq invasion, has sought to improve ties with Russia, and didn’t go along with America’s FSA->SDF switch. The US doesn’t give a shit about genocide or any of the actual bad things Erdogan has done. They do care if a Muslim nation aaserts independence and seeks regional leadership at America’s expense.

2 Ilhan did not call the Uighur camps Genocide. She said mass detention.

This is not hypocrisy. It’s two different takes on two different situations.

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It’d just be nice to see one person in Congress not devolve into a complete ghoul

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no you see it’s only genocide when extremists of my religion are being re-educated

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