David cross said the n word on chaps and they had to cut it lol
They went full bore with this one.
I mean he keeps calling the Scandinavian countries socialist but the america fucking sucks rhetoric is really solid
To be fair the graphic next to him said “mild social democracy” when he was talking about those countries
well, when your project is entirely about moving the discourse left I can get behind you using the spectrum definition of socialism.
“you” in this context is the Gravel Institute.
I’d much rather people start recognizing why and how they are getting screwed by capital than be scared off by severe cognitive dissonance.
I’ll be honest, I fucking hated this.
It’s an argument for a new social contract. A new social democracy. Not for socialism. And it calls Denmark socialist.
Don’t fall for the social democracy thing. It was possible to do in a different time under different circumstances. It is not possible now and will not be until a new event on scale with the Russian revolution shakes capitalism. Those of us lucky enough to be born into the vestigial welfare states still enjoys a lot of freedoms but they are being undone as the contradictions of capitalism intensifies and the very social democrats who praise themselves for the class compromise are oftentimes leading the undoing.
Someone else in the comments here described this as a bernie level radicalizer, not theory or accurate or something to strive for, but a great intro to radicalization
I don’t buy it. I’m having perfectly good success radicalising Americans with socialism, just socialism. A segue is not required.
My anger might be seriously increased because I’m actually from Europe, and perhaps when I engage with Americans that’s partially why they respond fine to socialist arguments instead of social democratic, but whatever it is this bothers me a lot. I do not have any problems convincing people to be socialists.
Breadtube are doing the whole social democratic routine and have you seen what awful fucking audiences it is creating? Radlibs. It creates radlibs. They haven’t moved anywhere in 3 fucking years and they’re only becoming more and more anti anything to the left of them. They’re not good. Trying to go the segue route is a bad idea.
Gravel are doing great pushing actual socialist arguments. They should just continue that. I will stop spreading them if they go down this route because it’s legitimately not the right path to go down.
I know what you’re saying, but I doubt you’re radicalizing those folks with premade speeches that you deliver over and over to each of them, but instead each radicalization is tailor made.
I agree that this is not up to par with individual praxis, but you can’t scale that up effectively without concessions. I think this video will do more good in it’s current state than if it were more hardline, more radical, and more acceptable to us. I’m sure there’s some way to make it work, but videos like this I can show to my parents and them supplement/ correct it myself, where harder stuff would put them off
I don’t care. Convincing people into the social democracy position first with the belief it will lead them to socialism afterwards has failed in literally hundreds of countries. If the American left goes down this misguided route then the outcome will be a new social contract via reformism, not socialism. Just like it has in literally every other western country that went down this road in the past.
Argue for socialism. Not a fake middle ground. Social democracy is literally the biggest threat to the left movement next to fascism, it is our enemy.
The goal is to counter right-wing propaganda. Considering what most Americans’ views are, this stuff is definitely the right direction to be pushing people. I bet if you ran a poll on this site, most of us were SocDems before we were communists.
If you think this kind of content makes the Left worse off than before, you need to log off and talk to Americans.
good video :mao-clap:
I wasn’t expecting the Chipmunks villain to tell everyone why America sucks, but go off King. 👑
