And you know who I also don’t condemn?

The IRA

The Viet Minh

John Brown

Haitian slaves who revolted

Native American fighters

Black Panthers

National Liberation Front (Algeria)

Nelson Mandela

The 26th of July Movement

Every one of them were called “terrorists” or something equivalent at some point. Now think about who’s on the opposite of this list. Apartied South Africa, slavers, settlers, Zionists, the US government… There is only one moral and just side to be on and it’s not even a discussion.

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I hate the framing of Hamas as terrorists, if they are considered terrorists, The IOF should be too.

I was reading the 1988 charter and there are parts of it that are sketchy and contain anti semitic stuff, like saying that Jews control the world and media and that they use groups like the Freemasons to push the Zionist agenda. I think there is one quote about killing jews. But in the same charter they talk about aoming for Muslims, Christians and Jews to live peacefully together as they had after the Islamic conquest in the 7th century. And I recognize that the formation of Hamas is a reaction to colonization, displacement, murder and torture. Also I know they did re-write the charter in 2017 to explicitly state that they are militantly against the Zionist occupation and not Jews. It’s interesting and evokes a lot of different conflicting feelings for me, I just would be super curious to see an interview with someone who has been part of Hamas for decades speak on this

Edit: I’m working on a very brief history of Palestine and I’m finally working on 1988-1995 so there is probably a lot of context I’m missing at this point in the history too and am really curious to keep moving forward and learn about it.

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I guess one problem is that war crimes have a much more concrete definition in public perception than terrorism, so terrorism gets more perceived as a catch all “bad guys” label than a set of tactics.

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unarmed Palestinians did peaceful Great March of Return throughout 2018 and were cut down in the thousands by IOF snipers who were having competitions to see how many people they could maim

so done with this historically ignorant moralizing shit about nonviolence from liberals

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peaceful protest? yeah hooray let me march with you haha

UH ERM VIOLENCE? THAT’S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THINGS DONE !!!1!!!1

all it takes to piss off a liberal is telling them that actual real change doesn’t happen with signing petitions and holding hands. no government gives a single shit or fuck about your lip service and will continue to steamroll oppressed groups regardless

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UH ERM VIOLENCE? THAT’S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THINGS DONE !!!1!!!1

They all just need to vote harder!

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wooooooow bro come on man dude look are you saying people shouldn’t vote at all? wow bro seriously man damn

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vote harder

yeah - kinetically.

I kinetically vote to remove fash from my local area

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Because liberals don’t actually care about what happens to oppressed groups they just want to feel morally superior while never being effected by the conditions of the system they support.

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