Erika2rsis
I design flags and edit videos about them for fun, for coin, and for glory. Alt account Erikatharsis@kbin.social
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This post and its comments go more in-depth about the Hexbears’ grievances: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1989401
The announcement from a Hexbear admin: https://hexbear.net/post/369410
The casus defoederationis that’s got me most concerned is that the 196 mod appears to endorse usage of the -tard suffix. When the Hexbears mention ableism, this is the specific objection they have.
Really bad form of OP to not include any links, and honestly it should be a Hexbear admin making this announcement, anyways.
@CARCOSA@hexbear.net @DuckNuckem@hexbear.net @TomboyShulk@hexbear.net Do you think that this thread or Hexbears participating in it goes against your rules? One of you had previously said “I am formally asking for Hexbears to stop commenting on meta posts in other instances” (πφ) but your current Code of Conduct says “Allow instances their own space for discussion, if requested implicitly or explicitly.”.
So far I’ve certainly enjoyed having my silly, ignorant questions about former and current socialist projects answered in-depth. It really is a breath of fresh air to feel like I can converse with others about the USSR, DPRK, China, Cuba, Vietnam, et cetera, without the capitalist mythologizing meant to portray these countries in the worst possible light — and at the same time, being a leftist conversing with other leftists, also without the sort of counter-mythologizing of these countries meant to portray them in the best possible light, to appease the impossible standards of liberals. The conversations I can have here just feel more mature, despite this being the selfsame instance with Pig Poop Balls. I’m not even a Marxist-Leninist, but I’m just tired of people brushing off massive improvements to the standards of living of over-exploited regions because “it was a one-party dictatorship who did it” or “it doesn’t count because it’s a stateless rebel territory, not a real country”.
In that case, there’s no need to focus on American atrocities: Norway’s poisoned the water of Brazilian natives to the point of cancer and fetal deformities, and killed local wildlife in the name of green energy — and our imperial escapades are ongoing to this very day, as most Norwegians continue to live in blissful ignorance, still believing that we’re a harmless country that just got lucky with the cod and petrol in our backyards.
my favorite part is when gorbachëv said “it’s gorbin time” and gorbed all over those guys
Thank you for responding. This is very interesting. Do you have any pointers for where I could learn more about these different topics?
Also, when you mention stereotypes about food/goods shortages in the USSR — do you mean that these stereotypes emerged after 1960 and were then retroactively applied to the USSR pre-Khrushchëv as well?
When they say “liberals” I personally understand it as referring to liberalism in the textbook economic sense, i.e. support for private property, market economies, Age of Enlightenment ideals of personal liberty, and what could be called “bourgeois” democracy. You may be somewhat familiar with the economic definition of “liberal” from the term “neoliberal”, which refers to the types of market liberalization associated with Reagan and Thatcher.
So basically the confusion comes because in the popular discourse of the United States, political terms are often used with completely different meanings from their more international/proper definitions. This is made worse by the fact that leftists use a number of words, such as “anarchy” and “dictatorship”, in completely different ways than most of the rest of the world.
The issue of contradictory definitions is particularly problematic for me as a Norwegian-American leftist, because I might say “I’m a republican. I’d never vote for Liberals or Democrats in my life. I strongly oppose liberal ideology.” one moment, and then the next I might say, “Oh, no, I’m absolutely a liberal! I hate Republicans like nothing else and only vote Democrat.”, with these statements not being contradictory in the slightest because these words are all autoantonyms with meanings depending on who exactly you’re speaking to. And don’t even get me started on the American versus Norwegian Overton windows!
Edit: I guess you could say these are examples of what the What Is Politics? podcast refers to as political “worbs”. Great podcast IMO.