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These conservatives don’t understand the party is about to move to the center because the real secret ceaser (US Military) in American society doesn’t appreciate the way these clowns are getting everyone riled up, if your ever wondering how the deep state thinks you should read their think tanks.

Opportunism of any stripe apply to everyone not just leftists, the right has been copying our mistakes and is attempting to use Desantis as a bernie/warren cannadiate, Guess what mother fucker you still have to form local consent for the laws you jam through in Jerry meandered states.

I think in the long run this opportunism will be punished on the right. I think next election will determine how bad the overreach is.

I mean it’s currently being aimed to remove the labor aristocracy in the states, like these llms are being developed to increase productivity of the highest ends of the working class like engineers, coders, lawyers, I think in big C captalists utopian dream is the universal machine that can do anything.

I don’t think they are gonna get that but it’s their version of the promised land, communism, heaven, the other side, transdence.

My guess is they will use it to unemploy a bunch of upper middle class people and and then use it to kill climate refugees at the boarder, if I had to guess what is plasuable, the real hard questions on how far it will be allowed to go will be dependent on climate change, the left in the states geting its shit together, what happens with the engineer types will they suck up or see them selves with the working class.

I think a lot of this stuff is dependent on the left in general in imperial core countrys geing it together and at this moment it’s very hard to feel optimistic about since the working class is divided along sectional lines, racial lines, country vs city.

Left is still recovering from the last bout of tailism with Bernie, now some are tailing the repubs with maga communism, we have people thinking China will save us in some capacity, as a really old leftist it has never been this bleak but at the same time it feels like the 1980’s, left has been nercomancyed from the pits of hell. In my more dire moments of reflection.

I feel like not only did we fail the future generations of the left but that it was our folly, ignorance that was responsible for the current state of things, I guess posting here in this forum is a sort of cleansing ritual of the guilt of my soul before the husk of the dead obelisk we call the American left.

These people are victims of their own propaganda, the only reason they call llms ai is to:

1. Hedge agnist where regulations will focus as llms get developed, just another way to avoid paying people.

2. It’s pr to generate hype and it sort of works because they are victims of their own captlist news cycle which is kinda funny. It’s like coming up with brando its what plants crave and then believing it your self.

I see what your saying, but I think this is kinda of a vulger position, which normaly im all I about it, I want the left to inclusive of people of left and right leftist opositions, I think one of the biggest issues within the 20th century left was shuffling of all would be left intellectuals into the university system, I think this damaged the movment( at least as I experienced it in the 70’s-80’s ) we need working class Intelligencia to be healthy and connected to the working class more directly, id even say the anti intellectualism we see now in people like vash is a result of this era of very radical but disconnected by extention of university carteling of knowledge from the working class in general.

I guess to support your point I think we should make being left more then seeing your lot with the working class but also even leftist in academic situations do need to be looked at with skepticism as they are insulated from harsh working conditions and the worst wages that working people suffer, they are more so insulated from econmic down turns more then other workers. I guess what I’m saying is we gotta be more picky about what workers get elevated as leaders but also we need more organic Intelligencia who can speak to divisions of labor better. Like how many though leader Marxists are not heavily credentialed university labor. You feel me? I’m not saying all collage educated is bad we need them but we need more then just their perspective like we need other segments of the labors to handle rural workers vs city ect

I think thats where the spectrum of the left starts, for me this is the most basic base value you have to hold to be on the left, what value or values do you think they are?

I mean yeah but the entire set of reactionary values dosent all belive in class collaboration theory, you know what i mean? I was just stating the left starts after the social dem not before.

Isn’t it fair to say anyone who sees their long term lot with the working class a leftist of some stripe.

I can give it to you for free https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_j5Apq16mjFwYm53RtmNRkIMNe2yvSRQ/view?usp=drivesdk I don’t really know how to do computers that good.

Can I recommend you a pod cast episode, i really think you got what it takes even if we don’t always see eye to eye on stuff, I am really glad I got to text at you, its called Diving into the Wreckage 7.2: Principles and Heuristics i think even if you don’t agree with everything it says you got what it takes to make use of it.