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I think their usual complaint that leftist memes can be really wordy. Which, yeah it’s true.

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It has been changed since (in 1945) and it’s only used very rarely. I think there’s some pride there about lot “letting Nazis ruin the logo”. It was one of major Finnish national symbols prior to Nazis and used since like iron ages. So bit of pride involved there.

Funny story. Finnish president Urho Kekkonen was visiting French president Charles de Gaulle and gave him a honory knighthood thing. Only problem, the symbolic necklace came with swastikas. Of course de Gaulle wasn’t a huge fan of that and Finns, realizing the issue, later changed the necklace and sent him the new one. Giving de Gaulle a swastika necklace as a present, lol.

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I don’t think it was unavoidable, I hope it didn’t come off like that. Generally there are three schools of thought about this. Historically the “drift wood” theory has been the most prominent one. It argued that Finland was drift food flowing in the rapids of world events. It argues that Finland just “drifted to Germany’s side”. It has been popular because Finland had to come to grips with what happened during WW2. And that theory was the copout, basically. “We didn’t choose this, it just happened”. It was basically the “official truth” for the longest time and even though professional historians abandoned the theory I think since the 70’s, it has been the popular explanation among non-historians for the longest time, with it still being somewhat popular. Another theory (not very popular) was that Finland was the willing aggressor and had been seeking out Germany the whole time since independence and wanted to join Germany and jumped at the opportunity. This you can still see in more far-left circles and I think the idea is more popular abroad. It’s been brought up here too. Then there’s the theory that has since replaced driftwood theory, with a more nuanced and I think historically sound take. It argues that Finland wasn’t a driftwood but more a “whitewater boat” I guess. The rapids of world events did influence Finland majorly, but there was also conscientious effort from Finnish side to seek closer ties with Germany. And that’s the one I personally believe in. Finland didn’t helplessly and unavoidably drift into an alliance with the Nazis, but rather it was influenced by what was happening around Finland, experience of being left alone during Winter War and how close to total defeat Finland was and fears about the unsettled business with Soviet Union. I think seeing all those factors, it’s understandable from the POV of the leadership at the time (though not morally defensible) to see why Finland became Nazi Germany’s ally.

Sorry for the long post.

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you’d be wrong

I bet. Especially if you don’t count saber rattling, threats and border skirmishes. If you don’t count those then I’m wrong and they’re very peaceful.

Cuba’s? Really?

Cuba got quite a reputation during the Cold War. It’s pretty interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_Cuba

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I don’t know if you’re joking or uninformed but that cross logo came from a Swedish count who donated the first plane to Finland in 1918. It’s not Nazi imaginery.

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In this case the communist attacked you and started shooting you first. I’d imagine most would defend themselves when attacked

It’s an interesting idea though that anyone who communists attack are Nazis. Maybe the funniest conclusion from that is that Vietnamese were Nazis since China attacked Vietnam in 1979.

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I think a lot of parliamentary systems work the same. Dunno if it’s particularly fascist way to elect a speaker.

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Finnish military uniform. It’s not some Nazi uniform if that’s what you’re wondering. He was a Finnish soldier during Winter War where Soviet Union attacked Finland. People saying he was fighting for “Axis alignes Finland” are confusing Winter War for Continuation War where Finland fought alongside Nazi Germany against Soviet Union.

As for his personal opinions on Axis countries, I don’t really know. I don’t think he was very outspoken about those, if he had much of an opinion.

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