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Serdan

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Ukraine surrendering is evidently not happening either. Given that Russia is indisputably in the wrong, maybe that’s the side we should put pressure on. Just a thought.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yaroslav_Hunka

The general sentiment seems to be heavily in favor of either keeping the article as is, or rewriting it to be about the event.

It’s interesting how Wikipedia is accused of bias from all sides, by people who can’t be bothered to figure out how it works.

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I support you in this endeavor.

Godspeed, comrade.

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It’s man-made because the severity of the famine was undeniably affected by policy. I don’t think there’s anything biased about that. What it means, and the extent to which it was deliberate, if at all, should be expanded upon in the article proper.

The usage of “Holodomor” is so common that it’s perfectly reasonable for an encyclopedia to use it. It’s the article title most people are going to be looking for, after all. But it’s worth noting that the very first section (etymology) has a paragraph about how Holodomor is different from the Holocaust due to no evidence of intentional extermination.

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I don’t understand how 22 Cans is still in business

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Please stop forcing me to defend Wikipedia. 🥺

Btw,

Holodomor:

The Holodomor,[a] also known as the Great Ukrainian Famine,[b] was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. The Holodomor was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1930–1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the Soviet Union.

Holocaust:

The Holocaust was the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Between 1941 and 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, around two-thirds of Europe’s Jewish population. The murders were carried out primarily through mass shootings and poison gas in extermination camps, chiefly Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and Chełmno in occupied Poland.

The opening paragraphs from the respective articles.

Spot the difference.

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Unfathomably based. o7

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Quelle surprise.

Why can’t we execute them again?

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