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Ugh. Might need to turn this into a drinking game to make it through this meeting.
Wow that sign is extra ridiculous. I think most people would struggle to read it standing right in front of it let alone driving past.
s316 does give a lot of leeway e.g.
(b) the sign has additional information on or with it; or
(e) the sign is combined on a single panel with 1 or more other traffic signs; or
The point where it becomes substantially different is pretty subjective, which IMO shouldn’t be a thing when you’re talking about road rules, but it’s sadly not the only example.
Signs that have a “reasonable likeness” to standard signs are covered under s316: https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/sl-2009-0194#sec.316
Number in a red circle is likely enough for it to be considered official, but yeah I would like to see it challenged.
I’d really like to see the speeding fines formally challenged in some way. You hear stories from cyclists that they or their mates have had them overturned, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence of this. Maybe it’s the case that police just choose not to proceed when the fines are challenged, and avoid setting a formal precedent in the courts.
It would also be interesting if this specific case was challenged. Like you say, it sounds like the 10km/h is supposed to be advisory, but the sign they have used is a regulatory sign which can be enforced by a literal reading of the rules. Not sure if it would hold up in court, and might come down to the judge’s attitude towards cyclists.
Cr Massey:
It’s clear the St Lucia to West End bridge is going to disappear
Council says ‘Yeah we want to do it, but now we need the other levels’
Please don’t listen when they say our promise was only $550 million. They talked about five bridges, the delivery should be five bridges.
Cr Johnston is being especially fiery today, butting heads with the Chair multiple times. She was formally reprimanded multiple times and in turn she dissented against his rulings.
“Mr Chairman, you are a grub and I dissent in your ruling”.
LNP members calling for her to be removed from the meeting but so far the Chair has resisted.