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Sure I guess, but so is the advice to “not act suspicious” in front of police or “not buy an iphone” if you can’t afford healthcare. I just think it’s important to not fall into a personal responsibility Jordan Peterson framing.

Oh god, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Tell me, were you forced to have sex under conditions that may lead to conception? No? Then welcome to being “an adult with a sex life”.

Again, a Ben Shapiro could come along and say the same thing to a woman who got pregnant. He would say, “no one force you to have sex, so now you gotta accept the consequences of being an adult and not murder that baby!” The only difference is that a pregnant person has the option to terminate the pregnancy if a child is not desired. I don’t understand how this is so hard to see tbh.

Not only are you a misogynist, you’re a racist too. Shocking.

You know nothing about me but ok lololol. This is some lib-level name calling…

Any kind of greater structural analysis is always “useless to the topic at hand” if the initial framing is narrow. So sorry if I’m trying to contextualize something within a bigger framework. It’s not like any other people have done that before…

So people who respond to tweets leveled at AOC are now AOC sockpuppets? I don’t know who dewot is and your seeming paranoia about sockpuppets is hyper lib tbh.

From the vagina of a cishet woman.

At least we can agree on that.

“She” gets to face the consequences: pregnancy. “She” now has to terminate it or carry it to term and decide whether to keep it or give it up for adoption. Those are the consequences.

Precisely, so let her decide. And let the “man” decide if he wants to support a child. If not, let the state intervene and provide child support. As I’ve stated elsewhere in this thread, why is it that people go all in on Medicare for All, free college, and all that jazz, but when it comes to universal child support, they suddenly become these austerity hawks and start using borderline gender essentialist shit to say “well the man should pay.” Here is how I feel about that: https://pasteboard.co/JDHZ3v3.jpg)

Abortions, just like giving birth, can be unpleasant and traumatizing.

This reminds me of the shaming rhetoric used in the 90s about abortions being “safe, legal and rare” (https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-48-shifting-media-representations-of-abortion-part-i).

Yeah which is why he had to resort to help from Engels. I didn’t say otherwise.

Those stats you cited are pretty clear evidence of a patriarchal system, which makes it funny when someone gets super triggered by those stats and inadvertently defends that same system (even though they purport to be against such a system).

This whole gordian knot can be sliced immediately by just having universal child support system like “Child Support for All.”

All this other talk is honestly besides the point. No need to talk about who supports who and all that stuff.