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Because he married an Israeli woman and they have children together, and the family splits their time between the US and Israel.

A bunch of people arguing about what is and isn’t polite or uncouth behaviour in the context of a relationship isn’t an argument among feminists just because it’s mostly women participating or there’s some gendered language going on.

No, I’m not saying to tone it down. I’m saying pick the targets better. It leads to the wrong results to treat everyone like they’re the enemy.

Is the goal to push people away and create a small community of coordinated bullies, or is it to bring as many people as possible on board with a message?

The white liberals asked the Civil Rights movement to stop by basically suggesting they had nothing to protest about. I don’t know how to be clearer that I recognize there is a lot to protest about and more people should get in on it.

My goal here is to maximize the amount of people who understand the plight, not to ask you all to stop. I simply believe there are better ways than just getting mad at the first sign of a disagreement and dogpiling on that person with memes and anger.

There are different ways to be effective and the very real downside of the bad behaviour method is that it pushes people the other way and creates overcompensation if the receiver of the behaviour cannot figure out what the problem is.

Like I get it when applied to someone who is being a troll on purpose but if it’s someone who just went the wrong direction a bit, it can push them further down that path.

That’s why there are so many people now who wonder how fell for it but still to this day have a reservation about social justice and feminism. They still harbour resentment from the bullying.

Oh totally. It’s how they ensnared more people that aren’t actually all that right wing initially that concerns me.

And that’s the only thing you got out of it? The size and speed of the movement cannot simply be attributed to just a 4chan initiative.

I’d say you’re being more revisionist than I am. You know it was well orchestrated but you’re totally missing what the methods and mechanisms to convince the “middle” were. It didn’t become a movement almost literally overnight because the extremists all went mask off.

Were you even there when it grew and happened? It sounds like you missed it entirely and only know about it from after-the-fact recordings that can’t possibly capture the actual contemporary phenomena as it gripped communities in front of us.

Also, the nature of the replies to my comment are more in line with how GGers responded than it isn’t. Please go back and reconsider how my comment was actually about how bad behaviour fosters more bad behaviour.